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Is Tua our next QB?


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27 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

 

2) Carson Wentz- I can see Kevin O’ Connell reshaping him a little bit. He has spent some time with him, Mahomes/Reid, and Stafford/McVay the last few years and may have refined himself a bit. Plus, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him outperform McCarthy at times this year but get the boot because they are invested in JJ. 
 

It's a little concerning that he can't catch on anywhere. Indy couldn't get him out of town fast enough.

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One last thing, they could have brought Lock in this year, right? Didn’t for some reason. I know that when Canales got here they talked to him and he had committed elsewhere. But I didn’t see that they talked to him this year. That means something, but who knows what. 
 

I’d like to see a process of selection Re QB that didn’t include Bryce in whatever considerations get considered. What would we do without him murking up the waters. 

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8 hours ago, onmyown said:

Desirable QBs have options.

Our franchise is too inept to draft one.

What am I missing?

Fishing around in the dumpster isn't the answer.

Get better at prospect evaluation is literally the only answer. Or maybe drastically overpay some aging veteran, which seems like an unwise idea.

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7 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I don’t know. I think if Bryce doesn’t work out, which seems to be the way things are heading- I don’t see us drafting a QB. We should but we won’t because Canales and Morgan will be on year 3 and panicking. So the year we shouldn’t have drafted a QB we did and the year we should, we won’t IMO.

If we go the vet route, assuming Morgan and Canales are still here, I see three options. 
 

1) Drew Lock- can totally see them taking a Jake Delhomme style approach with it like they did in 03 and he has a little overlap with Canales. 
 

2) Carson Wentz- I can see Kevin O’ Connell reshaping him a little bit. He has spent some time with him, Mahomes/Reid, and Stafford/McVay the last few years and may have refined himself a bit. Plus, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him outperform McCarthy at times this year but get the boot because they are invested in JJ. 
 

3) Davis Mills- Considered one of the better back ups in the league. Big guy, big arm, very football smart. 

Upper tier backups have good options available. 

Also, hitching your bandwagon to a career backup isn't likely to pan out. 

Mills is a possibility, but that would have to be a trade. He is under contract through 2026. Same with Lock, under contract through 2026. 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Upper tier backups have good options available. 

Also, hitching your bandwagon to a career backup isn't likely to pan out. 

Mills is a possibility, but that would have to be a trade. He is under contract through 2026. Same with Lock, under contract through 2026. 

It will be interesting this year to see if spending time with some of the best QBs and play callers in the league changed Wentz at all.

I really think Mills is starter material. He wasn’t awful despite being apart of two dumpster fire seasons before Demeco got there.

Plus he would have zero issues seeing over the line.

 

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18 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

It will be interesting this year to see if spending time with some of the best QBs and play callers in the league changed Wentz at all.

I really think Mills is starter material. He wasn’t awful despite being apart of two dumpster fire seasons before Demeco got there.

Plus he would have zero issues seeing over the line.

 

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He has a heftier contract than you would think. I think the issue is that the Texans will want likely more than he is worth. They are in no great need of trading him. 

I am fine with Mills as a bridge attempt, no issue with that. I just don't want to be seeing top 4 round draft picks headed out the door, even considering our lack of ability to capitalize on them. 

 

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