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33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Not to burst your bubble but he was first in 2023 and 4th in 2024 on our team in YAC.

Not trying in any way to suggest he is a YAC guy but 100% of the arguments you are making are basically invalid simply because his high production level here didn't have to do with his ability to be an elite WR. His production has been because he is frequently the only above average NFL receiver that we have had almost every time he has been on the field as a Panther. The exceptions are probably the short Dionte Johnson period we had and likely would have been TMac, were he still here.

None of this changes the fact that he is at the end of his career and he's not walking back through the door.

Besides. We needed to see Bryce without his crutch. And we have.

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3 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

35 with a rookie QB that came from a run 1st offense in college. I’m not surprised.

but Carson Wentz isn't a rookie and the Vikings just hung 48 on the Bengals last week.  0 yards. 

I would say it a combo of 2 things, AT is another year older and the Vikings have a solid TE in TJ Hock.   

and AT basically become a TE in Carolina that we over fed. 

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6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Stoud has won the division 2 years in a row and won in the playoffs.  Odd flex you are trying to pull.   Cj has shown he can do it while with Bryce it's always excuses 

Team game. 
 

QB Bryce Young vs #Texans QB C.J. Stroud's last 10 full games played:

Pass attempts: Stroud 318, Young 319

Total yards: Stroud 2,274, Young 2,335

Total touchdowns: Stroud 9, Young 20

Interceptions: Stroud 8, Young 6

Sacks: Stroud 36, Young 22

Adjusted net yards per attempt: Stroud 4.62, Young

5.84

 

But keep hating on your own QB. Dork. 

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It's amusing how quickly some folks have moved from telling people to stop talking about Stroud to bringing him up in completely unrelated threads all on their own now.

At the end of the day that Texans team still made our offense look putrid back in August. There's a long season ahead. You folks dunking on the Texans may want to buckle up.

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9 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Team game. 
 

QB Bryce Young vs #Texans QB C.J. Stroud's last 10 full games played:

Pass attempts: Stroud 318, Young 319

Total yards: Stroud 2,274, Young 2,335

Total touchdowns: Stroud 9, Young 20

Interceptions: Stroud 8, Young 6

Sacks: Stroud 36, Young 22

Adjusted net yards per attempt: Stroud 4.62, Young

5.84

 

But keep hating on your own QB. Dork. 

Why last 10 games?    Nice cherry.   Let's look at overall career and see how it looks.  2 division title 2 playoff wins.  Go slurp Bryce some more

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1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Team game. 
 

QB Bryce Young vs #Texans QB C.J. Stroud's last 10 full games played:

Pass attempts: Stroud 318, Young 319

Total yards: Stroud 2,274, Young 2,335

Total touchdowns: Stroud 9, Young 20

Interceptions: Stroud 8, Young 6

Sacks: Stroud 36, Young 22

Adjusted net yards per attempt: Stroud 4.62, Young

5.84

 

But keep hating on your own QB. Dork. 

the good fans know it is only cool to hate on the selected WRs, LBs, lineman, coordinator, etc.  Because that's totally different. 

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Just like Diontae, Thielen looked a lot better here.  Bryce's strength is getting it to shifty route runners.  Like it or not, Bryce makes those guys look better than they may actually be.  Besides Renfrow, no idea what's going on there.   They're having a slower time building chemistry. 

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2 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Just like Diontae, Thielen looked a lot better here.  Bryce's strength is getting it to shifty route runners.  Like it or not, Bryce makes those guys look better than they may actually be.  Besides Renfrow, no idea what's going on there.   They're having a slower time building chemistry. 

you may want to check your stats on that one, DJ didnt do poo with bryce

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21 minutes ago, CRA said:

but Carson Wentz isn't a rookie and the Vikings just hung 48 on the Bengals last week.  0 yards. 

I would say it a combo of 2 things, AT is another year older and the Vikings have a solid TE in TJ Hock.   

and AT basically become a TE in Carolina that we over fed. 

Their game last week against the bengals was similar to ours. The offense didn’t have to do much 

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