The Panthers’ Offensive Spending Is Misleading — and Bryce Young Is Paying the Price

[strato]

42 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

The second leading receiver for the panthers is literally a running back. Like right now in 2025. 

Well it used to be a TE, or was he the leading receiver. 

As long as we get the production from somewhere (such as it is); this QB will use the hell out of a RB if the RB can be used. 

As a secondary comment, I always though that was really what the Brooks pick was about. He was supposed to be ready for camp IIRC. 
 

Not endorsing the decision, just diagnosing it btw. 

Edited yesterday at 04:19 PM by strato

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2 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Honestly - is this cranky person Bryce's huddle account?

I don't really mind these cranky troll threads. A falcons fan probably.

[PantherGuy]

Invested lots of money into OL and premium draft picks into WR

[Mr Mojo Risin]

11 hours ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Yeah, but he had a reliable WR in Thielan his first two years, and T-Mac this year. Not a stellar group, but he was billed as "a point guard that distributes the ball well." He hasn't been. Even our dipshit owner said having Bryce would save us from having to spend resources on WR. If you've got a good QB and good OL, you usually can get by with a mediocre WR corps, but we have Turnover Fred.

Thielen wouldn't have been higher than WR 3 on any other team but the Panthers though. Look what he's done with the Vikings so far. Every starting WR that was traded/released/ not resigned hasnt done anything for another team but they were Bryce's #1/#2 WRs during their time here.

Johnson, Mingo, Chark, Thielen, Marshall Jr.

Most of those guys were the WR1 during his first two years! That is a crazy terrible list. Throw in the fact that XL has looked more like a typical Panthers 2nd round dud than a true 1st round pick like DJ Moore or even Tmac and you can easily see that the Panthers have not done a good enough job with surrounding Bryce with NFL talent at the skill positions

That's not to say Bryce doesn't deserve his fair share of criticism. He absolutely does. He has a lot of terrible turnovers and makes some pretty bad throws/reads. I think he's limited in the short range, screen passes etc. And doesn't have good enough deep throw accuracy to keep defenses honest. We'll see what happens but if Bryce fails the Panthers front office definitely had a part to play

Edited 19 hours ago by Mr Mojo Risin

[electro's horse]

what do you mean IF Bryce fails

[CPF4LIFE]

15 hours ago, electro's horse said:

what do you mean IF Bryce fails

Exactly. I wouldn't call what he has been doing the last 3 years Succeeding. Lol

[mrcompletely11]

8 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Exactly. I wouldn't call what he has been doing the last 3 years Succeeding. Lol

Al Wallace, as big as a panther homer as it gets calls his play "pedestrian" and he is not elevating his team.  They are winning because of him and thats a problem and if it doesnt get elevated then Dan and Dave have to make decision at the end of the year.

 

Nothing groundbreaking and its something we all know but hearing it from him is eye opening.  its on his last podcast

[CarolinaLivin]

Could always be worse…

https://x.com/fos/status/1976294776346411312?s=46
 

The Browns are currently paying EIGHT QBs.

• Deshaun Watson, $35.9M
• Jameis Winston, $2.2M
• Dillon Gabriel, $1.1M
• Joe Flacco, $999K
• Shedeur Sanders, $955K
• Bailey Zappe, $315K
• Dorian Thompson-Robinson, $171K
• Kenny Pickett, $8K

(via @spotrac)

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5 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Could always be worse…

https://x.com/fos/status/1976294776346411312?s=46
 

The Browns are currently paying EIGHT QBs.

• Deshaun Watson, $35.9M
• Jameis Winston, $2.2M
• Dillon Gabriel, $1.1M
• Joe Flacco, $999K
• Shedeur Sanders, $955K
• Bailey Zappe, $315K
• Dorian Thompson-Robinson, $171K
• Kenny Pickett, $8K

(via @spotrac)

All of em are real shi*t too.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

All of em are real shi*t too.

Id sacrifice a small farm animal to have Jameis running this offense and dave refurbishing him.  It never was about the physical play it was all mental with him.  He doesnt give a poo and thinks he can make every throw.

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

All of em are real shi*t too.

Ok salary aside, who would you take today over what we have?

[mrcompletely11]

google tells me he won 6 games his rookie year and that was up from 2 the prior when the Bucs were fuging terrible.  9 Year 3 then got hurt year 4

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Id sacrifice a small farm animal to have Jameis running this offense and dave refurbishing him.  It never was about the physical play it was all mental with him.  He doesnt give a poo and thinks he can make every throw.

It would be more fun for sure. Winston can make all the throws...and all the interceptions.  

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3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Ok salary aside, who would you take today over what we have?

Wow, you add our two qb rooms together and it's a collection of real gems. Id rather see anyone other than Young at this point, so give me crab legs.