ESPN's Barnwell Early Offseason Grades

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, Khaki Lackey said:

 

Yeah The King of Pop is a serviceable #2. Better than JAG level IMO, but playing across from a no-fly zone, he's going to get picked on

100%. He's a serviceable starter but not a shut down CB by any means. Not too bad for $5.25M /year.

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, L-TownCat said:

Last year teams didn’t have to throw against us.  Jackson is strong in run support and can cover average WRs.  Asking him to pick up the other teams number 1 WR is the height of stupidity when you have Horn.  Again Evero and his retarded system puts us at a disadvantage before the snap.  Good teams will exploit this over and over again.

What is it ranked currently, #7 overall?

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, strato said:

If those edge rooks develop and have a good offseason program that could really help. I want to say we need more pass rush but we might just have to wait a little bit for some help. I mean, maybe it won’t be a dire need in a year. 

We still need more pass rush - but they're a good start. You need 4 guys to rotate at OLB. 

[strato]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

We still need more pass rush - but they're a good start. You need 4 guys to rotate at OLB. 

You’re right. I guess I was looking at it like we don’t have to sell out hard to get some help there. 
With the way DB creates havoc I would think an inside backer that was a strong blitzer could be a weapon. 

[OldhamA]

28 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Teams have a year of tape on him. 

however I think he’s been good in general outside of one game against George Pickens who low key might be a top five receiver in the nfl. 

watching one game against Dallas and making a whole opinion on his season is pretty much what national reporters do tho 

They have 7 years of tape on him.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

How does Rosebust not get on the disappointment list?  I get that Jackson<Horn but if we had a Mike Jackson caliber FA at LB and probably a couple other positions the team would be in much better shape. 

Not saying he's the second coming but there are a few positions that can be improved with the addition of good/not great players.

[L-TownCat]

52 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

What is it ranked currently, #7 overall?

Overall? I think so.  But surely you aren’t trying to justify allowing the opposing offense to matchup their #1 WR against MJ by simply switching sides?  

The defense is playing much better this year and could potentially play even better by allowing Horn to shadow the best WR.

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

They have 7 years of tape on him.

Not in this defense. 

(also honestly I always think we drafted him for some reason)

[PadresPanthersFan]

3 hours ago, Khaki Lackey said:

 

Yeah The King of Pop is a serviceable #2. Better than JAG level IMO, but playing across from a no-fly zone, he's going to get picked on

It would be nice if he got a couple I N Teehee

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Slightly above expectations?!

If we keep stacking offseasons like this one we'll be running the NFC South for a long time.

I mean....I think we are getting ahead of ourselves a bit there but Inhave been very pleased with the early returns. Cautiously optimistic.

[Peon Awesome]

Yeah I think calling Mike Jackson's contract a miss isn't fair. $5 million for your starting outside corner is a bargain. You can't expect that kind of value signing to be a shutdown corner, especially when you've got Horn locking down the other side, basically forcing the opposing QB to preferentially pick on Jackson's side.

I think the biggest question mark is Wharton, and admittedly he's been injured a lot so it's more of a TBD. But as solid as Bobby Brown and Ashawn Robinson have been filling in, it feels more like money that could've been better spent elsewhere.

[Jon Snow]

I don't know about grades but I will say as a whole I can see what seems to be a plan in place. Early results are trending in a positive direction all be it in baby steps. That is something I haven't seen in a very long time. 

[strato]

35 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Yeah I think calling Mike Jackson's contract a miss isn't fair. $5 million for your starting outside corner is a bargain. You can't expect that kind of value signing to be a shutdown corner, especially when you've got Horn locking down the other side, basically forcing the opposing QB to preferentially pick on Jackson's side.

I think the biggest question mark is Wharton, and admittedly he's been injured a lot so it's more of a TBD. But as solid as Bobby Brown and Ashawn Robinson have been filling in, it feels more like money that could've been better spent elsewhere.

I thought A’Shawn looked really good last year and was kind of alone in that amidst the sky is falling the defense sucks general mood. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, strato said:

I thought A’Shawn looked really good last year and was kind of alone in that amidst the sky is falling the defense sucks general mood. 

A'Shawn has been making plays now that Derrick is back. Funny how that works.