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d-dave Grand Master

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8 hours ago, strato said:

 Bryce needs to play the NFL game. That is the job. Can he do it or not do it? 

Very fair point.  I guess when Bryce get's to play spreadout, that works for him, but Canales won't do that because it's not going to hold up for a 17 game season.  

To me, this has always been a make or break year for Bryce.  Year 3, you need to know what you have.  We just don't have a full time, starting NFL QB.  I will hedge that on the fact that he's only 24 years old.  It's a small hedge, maybe just a shrubbery at this point since Bryce has had three full training camps as QB1.

I guess I'm struggling with the balance between patience and performance.  My desire is to be patient since he's 24, but he's also had plenty of time to improve.  I just don't want to use send him off for peanuts and watch him reach his potential elsewhere.

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5 minutes ago, d-dave said:

Very fair point.  I guess when Bryce get's to play spreadout, that works for him, but Canales won't do that because it's not going to hold up for a 17 game season.  

To me, this has always been a make or break year for Bryce.  Year 3, you need to know what you have.  We just don't have a full time, starting NFL QB.  I will hedge that on the fact that he's only 24 years old.  It's a small hedge, maybe just a shrubbery at this point since Bryce has had three full training camps as QB1.

I guess I'm struggling with the balance between patience and performance.  My desire is to be patient since he's 24, but he's also had plenty of time to improve.  I just don't want to use send him off for peanuts and watch him reach his potential elsewhere.

I understand the sentiment that you don’t want to drop him and get burned. 
I say he needs to definitively prove himself and we have plenty of games left for him do that. 
As far as him burning us, he won’t get near the rope elsewhere that he has gotten here so if he is going to burn us he will need to do it definitively at his new place, which is really the same thing I am asking for. 

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3 hours ago, d-dave said:

Very fair point.  I guess when Bryce get's to play spreadout, that works for him, but Canales won't do that because it's not going to hold up for a 17 game season.  

To me, this has always been a make or break year for Bryce.  Year 3, you need to know what you have.  We just don't have a full time, starting NFL QB.  I will hedge that on the fact that he's only 24 years old.  It's a small hedge, maybe just a shrubbery at this point since Bryce has had three full training camps as QB1.

I guess I'm struggling with the balance between patience and performance.  My desire is to be patient since he's 24, but he's also had plenty of time to improve.  I just don't want to use send him off for peanuts and watch him reach his potential elsewhere.

As much as I think he has no shot, that possibility does exist.  I would think of it like this.  If he does somehow turn his career own elsewhere.  It was never going to happen in this organization with these people running it.  We need a guy with batteries included.  And new a coaching staff.

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On 10/28/2025 at 11:12 AM, d-dave said:

Very fair point.  I guess when Bryce get's to play spreadout, that works for him, but Canales won't do that because it's not going to hold up for a 17 game season.  

To me, this has always been a make or break year for Bryce.  Year 3, you need to know what you have.  We just don't have a full time, starting NFL QB.  I will hedge that on the fact that he's only 24 years old.  It's a small hedge, maybe just a shrubbery at this point since Bryce has had three full training camps as QB1.

I guess I'm struggling with the balance between patience and performance.  My desire is to be patient since he's 24, but he's also had plenty of time to improve.  I just don't want to use send him off for peanuts and watch him reach his potential elsewhere.

Tough to be patient when we've seen zero flashes of greatness from him.

We see the occasional flash of competence.

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22 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

As much as I think he has no shot, that possibility does exist.  I would think of it like this.  If he does somehow turn his career own elsewhere.  It was never going to happen in this organization with these people running it.  We need a guy with batteries included.  And new a coaching staff.

He was literally sold as a galaxy brained, pro-ready QB.

He's been none of those things and molly-coddled for three years.

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9 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Tough to be patient when we've seen zero flashes of greatness from him.

We see the occasional flash of competence.

I would say he has made some really good throws over the years, but the inconsistency even within a game makes it hard to believe he can ever put it all together

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22 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He was also sold as the highest floor, lowest ceiling of the top 3 as well, and so far, the floor has been a basement apartment in Venice. 

That is the biggest thing, his floor is Andy vs Buffalo bad and he has not raised it to where we know we won’t see that again. We have seen it opening the season three years running. 
His ceiling is Dallas, but that hasn’t happened but a small handful of games in 2.5 years. 

And he has yet to show that if a decent team shuts down our run game they will pay. 

I think he needs to show that in these remaining games or we should move away from him. 

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Saints benched Rattler and keep indicating they want to go elsewhere with QB position, I'd trade for him for a shot of youth and some QB competition if he could be had for a good price.

Rattler 2025 stats: 8 Games, 68% Completion, 1,586 Yards, 8 TDs, 5 INTs, 6.2 Y/A, 5.94 AY/A, 18 Sacks

Young 2025 stats: 7 Games, 62% Completion, 1,288 Yards, 11 TDs, 5 INTs, 5.8 Y/A ,5.73 AY/A, 11 Sacks

 

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