This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Kinda had to. Was in response to Bryce would have duplicated Stroud's rookie season if he hadn't been drafted here. 

Yeah I just don't understand this logic.

Texans win 3 games without Stroud in 2025.

Therefore Bryce would have made the playoffs with the Texans in 2023.

[*FreeFua*]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

You can't say that with any certainty at all. Bryce played the worst football of any rookie ever. His mechanics and footwork have nothing to do with Frank, DC or anyone else. All those ints and fumbles, yep, those are Bryce too.  Bryce and Stroud are 2 different QBs. Just because Bryce had one complete game in year 3 vs Atlanta doesnt mean he could have led a team to the playoffs his rookie year. 

Meh it’s something I’d feel confident betting on. The situation here was literally hell. It was horrible for Young’s development 

Young had guys like Hurst and Chalk who aren’t even in the league anymore. Mingo and Sanders might as well retire. The OL was a disaster. Reich’s scheme ran its course in Indy and got canned for a reason. Not in NFL anymore either. 

Houston is a complete team with real good pieces at the most important positions. Arguably best pass rushing duo in league. A top 10 corner. A top 10 WR. It’s a damn good spot for a young QB. 
 

This team gets murdered when Young doesn’t play. The beat Vegas that was it. Other than that the games weren’t even close. Meanwhile the Texans go 3-0. I mean even Stroud himself has talked about how he went to a much better situation 

[electro's horse]

Nico Collins hadn’t broken 40 receptions or 500 yards in either of his seasons before stroud got there. 

[electro's horse]

Slowik was a jumped up dork from PFF who got a shot to play real life madden, did some cool things his first year, then had no idea what to do when defenses adjusted (cautionary tale)

tank dell had to be shot behind the stadium like a horse

most important the Texans attempts to fix the offensive line have been the exact opposite of Carolina’s. None of their free agents or draft picks have worked out/stayed healthy. Stroud has been murdered and is having to play hero ball. Current offensive coordinator is just the latest piece of fruit to fall from the Rams coaching tree.

And with all of that strouds performance buries Bryce’s. 

[mav1234]

19 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Nico Collins hadn’t broken 40 receptions or 500 yards in either of his seasons before stroud got there. 

Exactly. They grew together.

We will never know but I am 100% confident Bryce wouldn't lead that team to the playoffs his first year. Hell, it took him 3 years to get close to Stroud's best game as a rookie.

Bryce's issues were well beyond a lack of support. Dudes footwork sucked and he needed a solid OL.

[The Lobo]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

The Texans just went 3-0 without Stroud and beat the Jags (who they lost to earlier this season with Stroud) and the Bills (who murdered us)

Just goes to show you how much of a difference there is between the two situations for these two QB’s who’ll forever be compared to one another

Bryce would’ve had the rookie season Stroud did if he went to Houston. Bobby Slowik looked like a genius his first year calling plays and was scheme guys open downfield. Plus Stroud has always had a true WR1 in Nico. 

Canales need to let Bryce cut it loose a lot more often. Canales can’t seem to figure out the strength of his own team. He’s made countless boneheaded roster decisions. Chuba/Rico. ETN should get Chuba’s snaps at this point. Corbett/Mays. Now Zavala over Corbett. TMac not being used in the slot more. 

Our problems stem from Canales. Not Bryce.

Our record isn’t good with Andy as starter il give you that, but do you think we beat Buffalo with Young starting?