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We're basically the 2024 Colts... a "serviceable QB" away from being a legitimate team

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strato Grand Master

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1 hour ago, XClown1986 said:

The defense is NOT legitimate. I think we have schemed well against some teams, but this team has real problems on defense. We are further behind on defense than offense in terms of competing, which sounds insane given our lack of offensive production, but its true. Get a QB that can complete intermediate and long passes routinely and the offense opens up, but it forces other teams to throw deep too, and we can't stop that poo. No pass rush, no backers that can cover tight ends, and only 1 corner (who got roasted yesterday).

That doesn’t sound insane, they severely neglected the defense the better part of three years.  I think you have to go back to Horn to find an investment over the 3rd round until last year. 
It was pillaged for two solid years and I am not complaining about Tet but we could have traded down and invested in that defense this last draft but it went to offense.  

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

We have a Tyler Warren comp? 

We have no idea what we have with our passing offense because Bryce can barely preform the bare minimum of what is expected out of an NFL QB.

You think Tyler Warren would be on anyone’s radar if Richardson was still their starter?

To the OP: Our teams are constructed very similarly and the Colts are a perfect example of how even a middle of the road NFL QB can dramatically improve a team. The Panthers would be challenging for the top of the division with Jones at QB.

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9 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

If you take Pittman and TMac out the Colts RB and WRs poo all over ours. 

Jonathan Taylor is having a MVP like season but he hasn't been that much better than Rico production wise given the fact that one has only started half the games this season. 

Pierce is good better than Coker and XL for sure. 

They have the edge at TE.

The other guys good players but not much to write home about. 

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3 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Jonathan Taylor is having a MVP like season but he hasn't been that much better than Rico production wise given the fact that one has only started half the games this season. 

Pierce is good better than Coker and XL for sure. 

They have the edge at TE.

The other guys good players but not much to write home about. 

Jonathan Taylor is better. For the main reason that he's been doing it longer and more consistently. Rico has shown he can have big games but he always looks like he's on the verge of an injury. 

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I'd take Steichen over Canales. The Colts played well even with all the injuries Anthony Richardson dealt with and playing journeymen QBs for most of his tenure as head coach. Anyone else remember that game the Colts played against the Panthers in 2023 where Bryce threw two pick 6's? 

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Just now, hepcat said:

Jonathan Taylor is better. For the main reason that he's been doing it longer and more consistently. Rico has shown he can have big games but he always looks like he's on the verge of an injury. 

Oh no doubt wasn't taking anything away from Taylor.

Just pointing out if we had Qb play on the level of Daniel Jones our offense could be somewhat competitive based on the pieces we have. 

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