Tmac!!!!!!

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

2 minutes ago, RJK said:

Who’s the leader for OROY?

Egbuka........deservedly 

TMac def helped his case today tho

[Aussie Tank]

I know XL had a good game today but what really burns my piss is we could have TMac and Ladd 

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I know XL had a good game today but what really burns my piss is we could have TMac and Ladd 

Fwiw I think we have the watered down version of him with Coker....

[DaveThePanther2008]

12 hours ago, Mike2.0 said:

There’s always some fans that don’t like the pick. I mean some wanted a defensive player, but I think picking MacMillan was a shrewd draft choice. His upside was clear and our need for a true number one receiver was clear. 

It was a wise pick.  T-Mac may be in the OROY running.  Had we taken a defensive player we don't end up with Scourton, who IMO is going to be a STUD in the years to come.  I remember the conversation they had early in the draft.  We aren't going to get a Top WR and the draft had plenty of good defensive players in the 2nd round.

T-Mac will be an All-Pro very soon. 

[Shotgun]

11 hours ago, Self Centered said:

I would argue Luke Kuechly.

And D Brown 

[TD alt]

12 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

As good as C Mac is, a dominating WR is worth far more than an RB. 

Burns was more of a liability than an asset in his time here. He could have been so much more. I’m sure there were, but I can’t remember a single game that Burns closed a game out. I saw plenty where he was used and abused by blocking TEs while teams ran right at him.

I like DJ but he was never a true game breaker. He’s really good and put up good stats, but never dominated. Tet is on the precipice of taking games over. 

 

I disagree. T-mac has a long way to go before he surpasses C-mac's value. I'm not saying that he can't do it, but a highly skilled RB that can gain yards in chunks, and can run routes just as well if not better than some receivers is highly valuable indeed. Over time, a receiver might have a couple of more seasons of impactful play due to the nature of their positions, so in that sense a receiver may be more valuable because you eventually get more out of them, but there's an argument that in their prime, the skilled three-down RB that is highly skilled is likely more impactful. I'll give you the point that regular WR1s are more valuable than regular RB1s, particularly with a team legitimately using RBBC, but Gore, Tomlinson, McCaffrey, and many other great backs are simply harder to replace than WR1s. The role that they play is special and specialized. 

[TD alt]

6 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

I know XL had a good game today but what really burns my piss is we could have TMac and Ladd 

It hardly ever works that way. Had we had Ladd, we may not have even been in a position to draft T-Mac. It is something to ponder though.

Edited 6 hours ago by TD alt

[Panthering]

He's awesome! I remember yelping in excitement when we announced him as the pick, I'm so happy we hit on a WR.

[kungfoodude]

17 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

He isn't perfect but I had him as my #1 WR in that class for a reason. 

[bythenbrs]

9 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

I know XL had a good game today but what really burns my piss is we could have TMac and Ladd 

I was pounding the table for Ladd and ecstatic when he was there at our pick.  Woulda, coulda, shoulda…

[bythenbrs]

3 hours ago, TD alt said:

It hardly ever works that way. Had we had Ladd, we may not have even been in a position to draft T-Mac. It is something to ponder though.

True.  The brain trust may have considered the WR ‘problem’ solved after Ladd’s first season with the Panthers.  No need to double dip on T-Mac in 2025.  It’s hard to know what DM and DC would have done in this alternate universe…

[Gapanthersfan]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

I disagree. T-mac has a long way to go before he surpasses C-mac's value. I'm not saying that he can't do it, but a highly skilled RB that can gain yards in chunks, and can run routes just as well if not better than some receivers is highly valuable indeed. Over time, a receiver might have a couple of more seasons of impactful play due to the nature of their positions, so in that sense a receiver may be more valuable because you eventually get more out of them, but there's an argument that in their prime, the skilled three-down RB that is highly skilled is likely more impactful. I'll give you the point that regular WR1s are more valuable than regular RB1s, particularly with a team legitimately using RBBC, but Gore, Tomlinson, McCaffrey, and many other great backs are simply harder to replace than WR1s. The role that they play is special and specialized. 

 

Game wrecking WRs are HARD to find and they almost never hit the free market in their prime.  There is a reason why brinks trucks show up come contract time. It’s just a much more valuable position where the best are still breaking defenses long after an RB has reached his expiration date.

Is Tet going to be a better football player than CMC? Don’t know, yet to be seen. That’s a really high bar as CMC looks like he’s headed for the HOF.

I’m looking at the value side. If/when Tet turns in to a top 10 wr and they pick up his 5th yr option, will they flinch at turning him in to a 100 million dollar man? Absolutely not. Should you do that with CMC? Absolutely not. Would you extend Tet in yr 9 for 2 more years if he’s still that guy? Damn right you would. 

It’s not saying who the better player is. It’s what’s the better pick. WR > RB. 

 

 

 

[tukafan21]

8 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

 

Game wrecking WRs are HARD to find and they almost never hit the free market in their prime.  There is a reason why brinks trucks show up come contract time. It’s just a much more valuable position where the best are still breaking defenses long after an RB has reached his expiration date.

Is Tet going to be a better football player than CMC? Don’t know, yet to be seen. That’s a really high bar as CMC looks like he’s headed for the HOF.

I’m looking at the value side. If/when Tet turns in to a top 10 wr and they pick up his 5th yr option, will they flinch at turning him in to a 100 million dollar man? Absolutely not. Should you do that with CMC? Absolutely not. Would you extend Tet in yr 9 for 2 more years if he’s still that guy? Damn right you would. 

It’s not saying who the better player is. It’s what’s the better pick. WR > RB. 

 

 

 

lol no, sorry, but just no.

Yes, I agree, an elite WR is more valuable than an RB, but CMC isn't a RB.  He's a true offensive weapon who is just different than almost any RB before him, he's legitimately the best pass catching RB of all time.  Having a player who can do what he does is way more valuable than any WR you can have, if you throw health concerns aside (and current age), there isn't a non QB offensive player in the entire NFL that I'd take before CMC if building a team for one season right now.

CMC is looking at a first ballot HOF career, I don't care how good T-Mac looks, or how big of a fan you are of him (c'mon, just look at who is making this particular post), there is no logical way to make an argument at the moment that T-Mac has a chance at being a better player than CMC.  

That's not to say he can't of course, anything can happen, but if T-Mac ends up a better player than CMC, than he's going to be a no brainer first ballot HOFer, which is just insane to predict for any player 11 games into their career, I don't care who they are or what they've done during said rookie season.

If they re-did the 2017 draft, CMC actually moves up in the draft and would go 3rd or 4th after Mahomes, Garrett, and then I think there would actually be a possible debate of him vs TJ Watt.  Notably given your argument, he'd still for sure be drafted over Cooper Kupp.

[tukafan21]

Just saw something similar in an article, so went and looked, and T-Mac vs the rest of the team in receiving stats is kinda crazy.

Our 2nd-4th leading pass catchers (XL, Rico, Tremble) have a combined 645 yards, or 103 yards less than T-Mac has by himself

Or... T-Mac has 73 more yards than all of our other WRs combined