Okay gentlemen, REAL talk...

[rebelrouser]

There are several options for BY:

1. Cut him now and incur a 12M cap hit=no.

2. Keep him for 2026 and risk (.0001%) him balling out and leaving in FA=no.

3. Wait until April 23 for the draft to see if we get a qb=yes.

4. Decide before May 1 whether to exercise the fifth year, which would cost us 26M in '07=yes.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

We have the 25th ranked pass attack. 185 per game average

That means about as much to me as our having the supposed #2 defense in the league under Phil Snow.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, csx said:

I think this thread got attention on Jstews podcast. They were commenting about fans online discussing coach and QB contracts during an exciting game. 

Couldn't be this thread. It wasn't posted until the game was over.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

There are several options for BY:

1. Cut him now and incur a 12M cap hit=no.

2. Keep him for 2026 and risk (.0001%) him balling out and leaving in FA=no.

3. Wait until April 23 for the draft to see if we get a qb=yes.

4. Decide before May 1 whether to exercise the fifth year, which would cost us 26M in '07=yes.

#1 - Yeah...that's not gonna happen

#2 - Very much doubt it

#3 - If we draft a QB, it probably won't be in the higher rounds

#4 - I believe he gets the fifth year

#5 - Yes, there is another path, and it's to sign him to an extension this year

Number four seems the most realistic to me. 

Number five seems...unlikely, but I've seen this team so a lot of weird things over the years

[PanthersATL]

Big Picture thoughts:

at the end of last year, we were pretty happy with how Bryce was playing and our finish at 5-12. We didn't expect to get that many wins based on the previous year and how the season started.  We were on an upswing, and even though 5 wins is typically not worth celebrating, we were feeling good. We showed what we had the potential to do.

This year was a big of a rollercoaster, and here we are having serious conversations about playoffs. And, depending on how these last 4 games go, we could end up with a winning 9-7 record (or even 10-6) and not make the playoffs at all.

If we have that winning record but miss the playoffs, should we be an angry fanbase about what we could have done, or should we be a happy fanbase because we achieved what nobody thought was possible this year?

I'm leaning towards happy. Bryce setting records (both team and personally). Dave getting recognition for turning the locker room around and getting the players PLAYING. Dan for what is looking to be solid off-season and in-season player management.  And (dare I say) Tepper continuing to keep his hands off the team decision making.   

Can't hate any of this if we end up with a winning record at the end.

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

Big Picture thoughts:

at the end of last year, we were pretty happy with how Bryce was playing and our finish at 5-12. We didn't expect to get that many wins based on the previous year and how the season started.  We were on an upswing, and even though 5 wins is typically not worth celebrating, we were feeling good. We showed what we had the potential to do.

This year was a big of a rollercoaster, and here we are having serious conversations about playoffs. And, depending on how these last 4 games go, we could end up with a winning 9-7 record (or even 10-6) and not make the playoffs at all.

If we have that winning record but miss the playoffs, should we be an angry fanbase about what we could have done, or should we be a happy fanbase because we achieved what nobody thought was possible this year?

I'm leaning towards happy. Bryce setting records (both team and personally). Dave getting recognition for turning the locker room around and getting the players PLAYING. Dan for what is looking to be solid off-season and in-season player management.  And (dare I say) Tepper continuing to keep his hands off the team decision making.   

Can't hate any of this if we end up with a winning record at the end.

That's all pretty rational. 

I feel like people have forgotten what the end of last season felt like. To me, there were genuine reasons to feel hopeful, the kind we hadn't experienced in a long long time. 

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

This matters...

More than people, myself included, want to acknowledge.

It's not just a coach that players need to want to run through a wall for.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

More than people, myself included, want to acknowledge.

It's not just a coach that players need to want to run through a wall for.

We signed a damaged Jake Delhomme to a big contract extension as much as anything because his teammates would have followed him through the gates of hell.

It may not necessarily always lead to the best choices but yeah, it matters.