Bryce might be the most frustrating player we've ever had.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Sometimes....

My favorite thing about football is it's unpredictability. Jake was a living embodiment of that

But man, when it was good, it made for some amazing memories. That 2003 season was just...

[SmokinwithWilly]

43 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get it, but objectively speaking I'm not even sure Bryce is the most frustrating player on our current roster.

That honor goes to Xavier Legette

The entire offense rises or falls with Bryce. XL may be our most frustrating receiver but Bryce is Jekyll and Hyde. 

[OldhamA]

He's the scariest player we've ever had.

He's absolutely dogshit, but once or twice a season he bumbles into a decent start and you're left terrified that the owner is going to press the GM into activating his 5th year option.

It's no way to live.

[Mr. Scot]

55 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The entire offense rises or falls with Bryce. XL may be our most frustrating receiver but Bryce is Jekyll and Hyde. 

I'll take Jekyll and Hyde over just Hyde.

[SmokinwithWilly]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'll take Jekyll and Hyde over just Hyde.

If they touched the ball and equal amount of times a game, I could see the argument. But Bryce, being the overall #1 and a QB savant, never having back to back complete games looking like a franchise QB is about as frustrating as you can get year 3. He does what he does in ATL and the week before did what he did vs NO. XL can be benched, Bryce can't. Dalton is worse by a country mile. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If they touched the ball and equal amount of times a game, I could see the argument. But Bryce, being the overall #1 and a QB savant, never having back to back complete games looking like a franchise QB is about as frustrating as you can get year 3. He does what he does in ATL and the week before did what he did vs NO. XL can be benched, Bryce can't. Dalton is worse by a country mile. 

This is where we get into the distinction of "better player" vs "more important position".

Bryce doesn't frustrate me as much as he just plain mystifies me. I sometimes feel like I have no idea what I'm seeing. I do however think it's fair to label him as "overachieving" in the context of our season.

Legette? He frustrates me because I know what he ought to be capable of, but then I see what he actually does.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is where we get into the distinction of "better player" vs "more important position".

Bryce doesn't frustrate me as much as he just plain mystifies me. I sometimes feel like I have no idea what I'm seeing. I do however think it's fair to label him as "overachieving" in the context of our season.

Legette? He frustrates me because I know what he ought to be capable of, but then I see what he actually does.

It all depends on what frustrates you. Bryce frustrates me more because as he goes, generally the team goes. For what he advertised to be, he just hasn't delivered. 2 1sts, 2 2nds and DJ Moore, and we jettisoned Darnold who was beginning to find his way, for the results we've gotten. We paid a fortune for a Lamborghini, and we've gotten a Ford Taurus. 

XL to me was always a college one hit wonder so my expectations were never high. What we're getting is actually along the lines of what I expected. Not as many boneheaded in game decisions obviously, but I didn't expect him to contribute much if at all really. We've seen too many of these projects too many times before. They are what they are. 

[OneBadCat]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It all depends on what frustrates you. Bryce frustrates me more because as he goes, generally the team goes. For what he advertised to be, he just hasn't delivered. 2 1sts, 2 2nds and DJ Moore, and we jettisoned Darnold who was beginning to find his way, for the results we've gotten. We paid a fortune for a Lamborghini, and we've gotten a Ford Taurus. 

XL to me was always a college one hit wonder so my expectations were never high. What we're getting is actually along the lines of what I expected. Not as many boneheaded in game decisions obviously, but I didn't expect him to contribute much if at all really. We've seen too many of these projects too many times before. They are what they are. 

Sorta where I'm at as well. Bryce has amazing anticipation and can make some insane throws. But the body of work overall resembles Taylor Heinecke on his best days. Which is fine but it's not what you paid for.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It all depends on what frustrates you. Bryce frustrates me more because as he goes, generally the team goes. For what he advertised to be, he just hasn't delivered. 2 1sts, 2 2nds and DJ Moore, and we jettisoned Darnold who was beginning to find his way, for the results we've gotten. We paid a fortune for a Lamborghini, and we've gotten a Ford Taurus. 

XL to me was always a college one hit wonder so my expectations were never high. What we're getting is actually along the lines of what I expected. Not as many boneheaded in game decisions obviously, but I didn't expect him to contribute much if at all really. We've seen too many of these projects too many times before. They are what they are. 

My basic criteria:

Bryce overachieves...

Legette underachieves...

From that standpoint, it's an easy decision.