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Official Week 15: Panthers @ Saints Gameday Thread


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2 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Could easily have won. Bad personal and coaching decisions and Young was not the problem at all IMHO. I’ll still be there Sunday so hopefully we don’t blow that one as badly as we blew this one. 

I'm going to be there also. I would have felt better about our improvement had they won today.

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Just now, mrBdawg said:

Bdawgs sole purpose here is to shut down horsey boys retarded takes 

You’re doing great buddy. 

 

1 minute ago, Montsta said:

You’re telling me there isn’t one play in the playbook where the center just stands up straight and Bryce runs full speed through his legs? 

I want tribunals if this play doesn’t exist. 

I think he’d have the ball ripped from him in the bottom of the pile. 

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5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Stefanski won coach of the year twice

canales has partial control of the roster and has crafted one of the least potent offenses in the nfl.

if stefanski is available you kick Canales to the curb and let him go stroke his tears away

Stefanski is a mouth breather that squandered one of the best rosters in football....Hes an ass and coach of the year means nothing because of him.

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I didn't watch the game but judging by the score this team is another year away from competing. 

TLDR Version of today’s game:

-Bryce played like Bryce but had a beautiful dime to Coker for a TD

-Refs really, REALLY like flags

-Several players and coaches made really stupid decisions at the worst possible time which cost us the game  it was every bit a team effort of suck in this loss

-It’s a blessing in disguise because this team would be absolutely EMBARRASSED on a national stage playoff game like some may quit football over it. So consider them lucky they won’t make the playoffs now. 

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