I am so tired of watching rigged games

[CRA]

It was just a flag happy game.  It’s just called a bad crew. 20 called penalties and it was fairly even. 

[hepcat]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

and an undisciplined team

 

There is not one actual reason the NFL would want the saints to beat us

Are you that naive? The money that flows in the background on sports betting is not a joke and it’s not all above board. It’s been that way since the 70s it’s just ridiculously obvious now 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, TN05 said:

Shough was a designed runner on the play he got a call on and somehow got it. In fact, I'd pretty sure they were counting on getting a penalty because they wouldn't have had time to get lined up and snap.

he was on his ass sliding when he got hit, bryce was still in rb mode, wtf are you watching?

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Are you that naive? The money that flows in the background on sports betting is not a joke and it’s not all above board. It’s been that way since the 70s it’s just ridiculously obvious now 

oh so now all sports are compromised but yet you still watch, so who is actually naive here if you believe that?

[Pantherxtreme]

Yea that last personal foul hit on Shough was bogus dude running full speed and then makes a sudden slide what is the defensive player suppose to to do there when he's already committed to making the tackle on a full grown man. 

[ProcessBlue2]

We beat ourselves too, don’t forget that. But a few that was very obvious:

-80% of the money was on the Panthers and the spread opened and never moved past Panthers -2.5

-Alex Moore is a horrible referee and he clearly swung momentum multiple times. 
 

-He actually smirked when he signaled the FG was good after the penalty.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Yea that last personal foul hit on Shough was bogus dude running full speed and then makes a sudden slide what is the defensive player suppose to to do there when he's already committed to making the tackle on a full grown man. 

are you really saying the ransom hit was bogus?  Goddamn I mean goddamn goddamn goddamn.  Thats called 1000 times out of 1000 times

[Zaximus]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so how does that work?  Who makes the call?   By all means tell mean how this vast conspiracy by a multi billion dollar industry work?  Especially when if one iota of it gets out it literally implodes.  I am all ears 

Easy.  Head ref runs the show.  Only head ref gets orders.  Football is game of momentum it’s easy to dictate flow.  Doesn’t always work but generally does.  Started with Goodell.  Tv ratings exploded as storyline matchups magically always happened.   It’s not that crazy.  Why keep refs when they get worse each year ?  Why make rules more confusing each year so refs can make judgement calls ?  NFL is entertainment company like WWE it’s not illegal.   And now you have betting so normalized and everywhere.   NBA has had proven things happen as well.   It’s not that crazy.  

[Carolina Cajun]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

they showed the replay and csw was clearly offside, I mean are you guys even watching the fuging game or just commenting?

he was offside on a different play and I agree...but umm...wut?  to my knowledge they NEVER showed why we got a flag on the kickoff, I dont even think it was CSW...and yes looking at the game log...no the penalty was on Tremayne...so are you retarded too?

[hepcat]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

oh so now all sports are compromised but yet you still watch, so who is actually naive here if you believe that?

I mean people still watch the WWE, it’s entertainment. Being fair is just the illusion I think the NFL needs to drop. The NBA already lost that battle 

[jopie87]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so how does that work?  Who makes the call?   By all means tell mean how this vast conspiracy by a multi billion dollar industry work?  Especially when if one iota of it gets out it literally implodes.  I am all ears 

I mean sure, in all honesty, everything is probably on the up and up, and it all comes down to coincidence. I don't think it takes a lot to swing games. Has it ever happened, who the hell knows.

Would I be shocked to find out that the NFL has "areas of emphasis" for the referees going into games and those can swing outcomes, nope. Would I be shocked if there was an outright Tim Donaghy situation, also nope. At the end of the day, its all entertainment and thinking poo has WWE level scripting helps with the coping the shitty games happen.

Edited 3 hours ago by jopie87

[Pantherxtreme]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

are you really saying the ransom hit was bogus?  Goddamn I mean goddamn goddamn goddamn.  Thats called 1000 times out of 1000 times

Yes it was bogus. 

Bryce had a similar last minute slide where the Saints defender still laid a hit on him and it didnt get flagged. 

[ProcessBlue2]

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

Easy.  Head ref runs the show.  Only head ref gets orders.  Football is game of momentum it’s easy to dictate flow.  Doesn’t always work but generally does.  Started with Goodell.  Tv ratings exploded as storyline matchups magically always happened.   It’s not that crazy.  Why keep refs when they get worse each year ?  Why make rules more confusing each year so refs can make judgement calls ?  NFL is entertainment company like WWE it’s not illegal.   And now you have betting so normalized and everywhere.   NBA has had proven things happen as well.   It’s not that crazy.  

Panthers don’t bring in as much money as the Bucs do in the post-season. Besides, Panthers beat good teams and lose to bad teams which makes the unpredictable in the postseason.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I've always believed that when it comes to Carolina we are always going to be on the wrong end of officiating.  I can go back to 2004 against Dallas when Smitty had a catch and it will nullified by the refs. The Super Bowl with another catch that was nullified that changed the whole game. 

IMO, the NFL wants TB in the playoffs, either that or they want us to have to beat them 2x.  I am just so irritated.  

For years we have seen the Refs continually give Mahomes gift after gift.