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Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

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53 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

One of those situations can potentially be recovered from but your C allowing a guy free up the middle is the worst case scenario for an OL pass protection. There is a reason this gets discussed very frequently. 

I agree about middle pressure. Blind side is a close second. You just never see it coming. And that's where you get alot of big hits on the QB. 

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Just now, Navy_football said:

I agree about middle pressure. Blind side is a close second. You just never see it coming. And that's where you get alot of big hits on the QB. 

I don't disagree. I was just pointing out that of all the scenarios you were comparing in those images, technically Bryce was in the best shape. Not good shape, for certain.

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8 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Come on Huddle. I love Ickey's energy and fight, but he got his tail beat on that play and gave up a sack. 

How can we possibly have 9 pages blaming the QB for his LT getting bull rushed into him in 2 seconds while he's looking to the right? That's why your opinions aren't taken seriously. EVERYTHING negative is because Bryce Young sucks and is too small and his arm is too weak and he can't read the field and he's not accurate and...

None of these people have actually played football at any level im convinced.  They have played madden where you see the entire field at all times.  They dont understand how it actually works when youre on the field.   This play was on Icky and they refuse to see it because they want to blame everything on bryce always no matter what.  Bryce has plenty of blame on plays, you dont need to give it blindly.

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Actually, it is startling how many worse NFL starters there have been this season than Bryce. It has not been a great year for bottom tier QB's.

I went back and looked at the opening day roster of QBs. The only ones that I would have expected to be considered starter for the entire year that have been worse than Bryce are McCarthey, Ward, Fields, Penix, Tua, and Kyler. McCarthey was basically a rookie, Ward is a rookie, Penix had only started 3 games in his NFL career. Fields, Tua and Murrey were the only 3 with as much experience as Bryce.  Maybe some would argue TLaw but I think he's had a better overall season still. 

Of the slated temporary starters, Wilson, Rattler, Flacco, D. Jones, Jones obviously took the job and ran with it, while the other 3 got replaced for their rookie draft picks. 

When it comes down to it, there really hasn't been many QBs Bryce has outperformed that were slated to be year long starters with the same level of experience. 

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On 12/15/2025 at 7:17 AM, TheBigKat said:

Young abused him yesterday and this play single handedly sealed the fate

 

https://x.com/saints/status/2000359143031349370?s=46

 

we were moving the ball for another BY9 game winning drive but Ekwonu had other plans 

He apparently was hurt and tried to play through it

a person could argue he helped or hurt the team by doing that…there are coaches and medical personnel that could’ve,,should’ve helped with the decision 

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22 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Yeh the fact they did an mri is ominous.

if somehow they get eliminated this weekend I bet they shut him down 

In this day and age those are so routine, they are about like due diligence. A precaution to make sure you aren’t missing something. 
 

They probably should shut him down if the season is decided. 

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