Bryce Young is the worst QB in Panthers History

[SmokinwithWilly]

56 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Hmm. poo coach, doesn't want to do his job because he didn't get his way, not enough balls to stand up for himself, refuses to try.

Huddle: Bryce Young's fault

Nope. That's all on dumb ass Dave Tepper. But how do you work for a boss and build a team for an owner that has just cut your legs out from under you. You can't trust anything he or his GM yes man says because both will lie right to your face. You can't run your offense because the player chosen for you isn't the type of player you would ever chose for yourself.

It's like writing right handed all your life and switching over to left. Can you do it? Yeah. Is it going to be anything remotely close to legible. Nope. 

My guess is Frank told Tepper either he fires him and lets him keep his salary or he goes public about all the poo that just went down and Tepper isn't getting another real coach or GM again. 

 

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, Castavar said:

We've seen one of the best/most dynamic offense in the league last year get neutered by bad QB play this year in the Vikings. You CANNOT field a decent offense with QB play as bad as Bryce and McCarthy. McCarthy has THE best WR duo in the game in Justin Jefferson and Addison, a beast of a TE, a dominant running game in Jones and Mason, and a QB whisperer in Kevin O Connell.......and he still couldn't do anything. Then you have QBs in MUCH WORSE situations than Bryce putting up better numbers in Ward, Brissett, Jaxson Dart, Shough, etc. 

I can't believe that excuses I hear for this dude weekly. "Oh, he didn't have a running game to help him". "Oh, his receivers weren't where they were supposed to be". "Oh, his defense allowed 20 points". OK?! That happens to ALL franchise QBs. It's like EVERY little thing has to be right for Bryce to have a chance to win. We drafted this fugger so we could overcome that more times than not and put his team on his back.

You've undersold it.

We traded the farm so this fuger could overcome that more times than not. Instead he's no better than Heinicke or Kyle Allen on his best day.

[strato]

1 hour ago, Joe Bear said:

So if the run game works it's because Bryce sucks but if the run game sucks it's because Bryce sucks?

It’s more on who our run game works against. Asking them to dominate stacked boxes full of good players, is asking a lot. You can’t win them all either. Some weeks it is not within your power. 

His lack of height is a problem. And what he does to compensate seems to cause problems as well. I don’t know what to say about it that makes it better. 

Edited 22 hours ago by strato

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, Montsta said:

I mean Bryce sucks and other teams game plan extensively around the fact that Bryce sucks. So while it sounds like bias, yes, the run game sucks because of Bryce and when it works it works IN SPITE of Bryce. 

this isn't bias it's just common fuging sense. Bryce has got to take the top off the defense. He had plenty of time to throw today. Weather was bad sure but he plays like this regardless of weather.

if someone doesn't understand how teams are daring bryce to beat them by himself (and he can't) then they probably don't understand why it's bad that half his production comes in the 4th quarter or against prevent defenses. at that point i'm not sure what even the point of engaging them is

[NAS]

Kerry Collins was the worst if you’re talking multi year commitments

[dep]

24 minutes ago, NAS said:

Kerry Collins was the worst if you’re talking multi year commitments

  

7 hours ago, dep said:

Bryce Young has the lowest yards per attempt besides Kerry Collins, the lowest adjusted net yards per attempt, the lowest touchdown rate, the highest sack rate, the fewest passing touchdowns per game, the lowest offensive points per game while starting, and the second-worst career passer rating among all Panthers quarterbacks who started at least two seasons

It's not even a debate unless you point to Collins who would take shots on the bench

 

[Zaximus]

It's easy to hate Bryce and he made some bad plays (the INT comes to mind) but the running game was just absent and that's how we've won what we have.  The defense had us behind early too.  Then Canales with some really terrible play calls.  And trying that long field goal in the rain/wet grass?   Then the fact the game was totally rigged in the worst officiated game for us since SB50 (and that's saying something).

Honestly don't think Canales and Bryce can co-exist.  I'm not sure who is the bigger problem but I don't think they can work together.  Canales doesn't know how to call plays that best suit Bryce's skill set and Bryce can't succeed in what Canales wants to do.  I think something has to give.  

Regardless, we need real QB competition on this team.  Dalton was never any competition and definitely this year as he's washed.  Bring in some real backup QBs to press Bryce.  Canales is apparently the QB whisperer so maybe he can find a couple vets to fix, like Zach Wilson or something.  Or another run with Geno.  Who knows.

[carolinanimal]

1 hour ago, Zaximus said:

It's easy to hate Bryce and he made some bad plays (the INT comes to mind) but the running game was just absent and that's how we've won what we have.  The defense had us behind early too.  Then Canales with some really terrible play calls.  And trying that long field goal in the rain/wet grass?   Then the fact the game was totally rigged in the worst officiated game for us since SB50 (and that's saying something).

Honestly don't think Canales and Bryce can co-exist.  I'm not sure who is the bigger problem but I don't think they can work together.  Canales doesn't know how to call plays that best suit Bryce's skill set and Bryce can't succeed in what Canales wants to do.  I think something has to give.  

Regardless, we need real QB competition on this team.  Dalton was never any competition and definitely this year as he's washed.  Bring in some real backup QBs to press Bryce.  Canales is apparently the QB whisperer so maybe he can find a couple vets to fix, like Zach Wilson or something.  Or another run with Geno.  Who knows.

The question is does Bryce skillset fit the NFL? 

[CRA]

8 hours ago, thebdawg said:

Funny that you would mention Mr. Scot. Are you the one that banned him for no reason?

Is that why you’re giving him a tip? 

lol, it wasn’t a “you will get banned threat” nor did I ban him.  But in fairness, I could see how it could be interpreted that way not knowing who does things.  I didn’t ban him. 

I literally was just calling him on stealing Scot’s line because he consistently does it….and IMO you should be mocked for copying Mr Scot’s ways.  Simple as that. 

 

[Candler Cat]

6 hours ago, strato said:

It’s more on who our run game works against. Asking them to dominate stacked boxes full of good players, is asking a lot. You can’t win them all either. Some weeks it is not within your power. 

His lack of height is a problem. And what he does to compensate seems to cause problems as well. I don’t know what to say about it that makes it better. 

 

[ncsfinest21]

13 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

This is why Wilson NC doesn’t need the internet 

watch it bro, you talking and Julius Pepper hometown

[mrcompletely11]

10 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He knows his stuff. I think he picks some of these arguments out of boredom or just to debate. I can understand him wanting to move on from Bryce. I’m for it if that’s what we decide. He just wasn’t on the top of my list of issues this week. Last week is a different story. 

I dont understand how one can watch the games, especially yesterday, and not think bryces dink and dunk jump pass qb style is not an issue.  Seems like every week the pass chart is the exact same and its maddening to watch him literally have to jump to throw a high 4 yard pass over the middle trying to get someone killed.  If this was a one off then fine but its literally been 3 years of this garbage and as you can see the nfl has figured him out.  Stack the damn box and make him beat you.

[mrcompletely11]

9 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

So if the run game works it's because Bryce sucks but if the run game sucks it's because Bryce sucks?

when has the run game worked?

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont understand how one can watch the games, especially yesterday, and not think bryces dink and dunk jump pass qb style is not an issue.  Seems like every week the pass chart is the exact same and its maddening to watch him literally have to jump to throw a high 4 yard pass over the middle trying to get someone killed.  If this was a one off then fine but its literally been 3 years of this garbage and as you can see the nfl has figured him out.  Stack the damn box and make him beat you.

The blue print is out there there.  Stop our run, build a lead and make Bryce Young beat you with his arm the remainder of the game when we become one-dimensional offense.

It's not rocket science.