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Hunter Renfrow and Demani Richardson Cut, David Moore Activated from IR


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1 hour ago, ClawOn said:

Yeah I don't get the negativity. Dude moves the chains.  If he plays offense,  he'll probably get a first down or two.

Definitely!! He dont got to be a world beater, just be  where he should n don't cause negative plays. That's especially  key on a young team trying to learn how to win!

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1 hour ago, ClawOn said:

Yeah I don't get the negativity. Dude moves the chains.  If he plays offense,  he'll probably get a first down or two.

It's such an odd guy to pick to hate as a good special teams player and 5th or 6th string WR. Especially with some of the scrubs we have all over the roster starting and being terrible. 

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Don't recall Renfrow even being on the active roster in any recent games, so I don’t see Moore being on the field either unless he's taking over someone else on special teams or they are making XL/Horn inactive instead.

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Well Renfro was a local HS player around where I live so I was pulling for him. 
We didn’t see much of him, not enough to know if he was doing well on the comeback anyway.

I was resentful a little that Young couldn’t get the ball to him. 

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2 hours ago, Lurk21 said:

I agree he is  a coaches pet. Skillwise XL is better but constantly  messing up on Critical downs in a playoff game aint gonna cut it. He needs to get out his own head before he turns into a afterthought 

Yeah I root for him but can’t stan him with his boneheadedness. I think he has more talent and potential than the big detractors think he has. But he has to prove it I can’t make excuses for him. 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Okay, what were the metrics?

well, just some quick on the two subjects I mentioned.  YAC and getting open. 

2024 YAC per reception - tied for dead last in all the NFL amongst all WRs and TEs

2024 ESPN Analytics - Open - 148 of 159 - not technically dead last 

 I mean if your QB is Bryce Young, there is really very little reason to have a dude that can't get open or make anything happen w/ the ball in his hands

*he also was above league average in drop % in 2024

 

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36 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's such an odd guy to pick to hate as a good special teams player and 5th or 6th string WR. Especially with some of the scrubs we have all over the roster starting and being terrible. 

well, I'd argue the David Moore issue has shown itself over and over.  David Moore is his guy.  Which means he has guys.   And that means rosters and pecking order ain't just about play.......and I think if you look beyond David Moore at how David Canales manages his roster.......you see at other spots, he has been reluctant to play the best options elsewhere several times.  Which is a flaw I don't want in my coach.  Starting lesser caliber players for "reasons". 

 

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17 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

This is true of basically every coach

true, but all versions of that aren't the same.  Maybe you hang onto a Thomas Davis type player a year or two longer than maybe you should (not implying we did).   Needing David Moore on your team....would be a different version of that flaw IMO. 

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