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Schrader / Jeremiah mock draft experiment

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I wouldn't cry over the pick, could work out well. I just see a crowded TE room that is already underutilized and some glaring needs elsewhere.

But hey, what do I know?

I wonder if the picks had been in reversed order and Jeremiah had picked (he has a North Carolina/App State background) would his better knowledge of Carolina have made a difference? Schrager has a great football mind, but we're such a minor league team to him I'm not sure if he knows or cares about our nuances.

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Tight ends in the first round just have so much risk. Even guys that look like guarantees at the position, fail. OJ Howard is a big one that comes to mind (and I REALLY liked him and thought he was going to be a stud in the NFL).

I know that every player/position can be a gamble, but when you look at Kyle Pitts (he's come a long way, but he has clearly underperformed), TJ Hockenson, Hayden Hurst, Noah Fant, Eric Ebron, etc., NONE of these guys changed the dynamic of their team for the better. Zero. In fact, most of them end up being traded before their rookie deal is up.

This draft has some good tight ends. I wouldn't spend a 1st on one.

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We have taken two TEs in three seasons I think, and Sanders may not pan out or it may have been a sophomore slump, but we took a guy last year that was coming on. 
I am not in favor of TE in round one and really don’t consider it a high priority in any round. 

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In the first, draft a guy who plays a position that you have to pay $25-60m on a second contract.  If you have 4 of these players starting (over time), you save a lot of money that can be spent upgrading many other positions.  The first rounder is not just about the talent of the player--it is a business arrangement.

WR?  I am fine with it.  OT?  I get it.  Edge? Sure. CB? I understand.  Safety or TE?  Not in round 1.  

I think the Panthers will target Delp early day 3.  So it was written.

 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

We have taken two TEs in three seasons I think, and Sanders may not pan out or it may have been a sophomore slump, but we took a guy last year that was coming on. 
I am not in favor of TE in round one and really don’t consider it a high priority in any round. 

well said.  The TE is great for the middle of the field (crosses, curls, seams, etc) and Bryce is not great throwing there.  Maybe they blame the TE.

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I wouldn't mind it. Everyone talks about TE not being a need and that Canales doesn't utilize TEs in the passing game, meanwhile we have one of the worst TE units in the NFL and we'd be dumb to heavily utilize them in the passing game. If Canales wants to use the TE position as a core part of the passing game then it's quietly actually a huge need. Every TE on pur roster is a guy who should be competing for a backup spot at most and honestly probably just simply fighting to hang onto a roster spot and a paycheck. 

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

In the first, draft a guy who plays a position that you have to pay $25-60m on a second contract.  If you have 4 of these players starting (over time), you save a lot of money that can be spent upgrading many other positions.  The first rounder is not just about the talent of the player--it is a business arrangement.

WR?  I am fine with it.  OT?  I get it.  Edge? Sure. CB? I understand.  Safety or TE?  Not in round 1.  

I think the Panthers will target Delp early day 3.  So it was written.

 

Safety makes perfect sense if he's a great one. We've made do with scrubs at that position for far too long. 

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