Round 3: The Carolina Panthers select WR Chris Brazzell II (Tennessee)

[Jackie Lee]

1 minute ago, SetfreexX said:

Horn Jr.

I want Horn to get more reps but they basically just gave him jet sweeps until the last couple weeks and playoff game and waddya know he was rusty. Baffling way to coach up your very young and only good shifty option

[MrBubba]

[pantherj]

Yeah we needed a deep threat makes sense.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, rmoneyg35 said:

I posted one of the names I remembered above. Sorry I can’t remember every 6’5  wr draft bust by name 

Why not? You make a point about so many 6'4" / 6'5" being a bust in the NFL but can only name one. I know of several but for every failure there are more than one success. 

[csx]

11 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

While I want to like this pick, I can’t help but think of former 6’4- 6’5 WRs over the last decade or so that went in the first 3 rounds that ended up doing nothing. The names escape me but I know there’s been quite a few over the last 10–15 years.

McMillan? Metcalf? Higgins? Collins? Sutton? London?

Yeah a lot of doing nothing there

 

 

[strato]

I mean, they are his best plays in a highlight reel not a documentary, but his hands are pretty damned good and he has great concentration and also superb balance.   
I tire of the cookie cutter tall long guy too but I get why they like him. 

Edited April 25 by strato

[csx]

16 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

While I want to like this pick, I can’t help but think of former 6’4- 6’5 WRs over the last decade or so that went in the first 3 rounds that ended up doing nothing. The names escape me but I know there’s been quite a few over the last 10–15 years.

 

7 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I posted one of the names I remembered above. Sorry I can’t remember every 6’5  wr draft bust by name 

 

[rmoneyg35]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Why not? You make a point about so many 6'4" / 6'5" being a bust in the NFL but can only name one. I know of several but for every failure there are more than one success. 

But the point was there’s been a lot of tall wr being bust, even from Tennessee as someone listed above. Dorial Green-Beckham also comes to mind. Remember Kelvin Benjamin?

 

he simply reminds me of some of those former players, argue if you want.

[chbright]

Slow up on the HOF comps in here.

He isn't in Moss's sphere if you want production, and well, no one will likely be again. Claypool or Martavis Bryant were comps as a 1 trick pony that people figures out much more apt than Randy Moss. Moss was 215 at 6'4". dude here is sub 200 when he ran at the combine.

Until the combine there were lots of questions of if it was the player or the scheme. That singular 4.37 changed a lot of narratives. He isnt interested to block, and he's gonna get blown up right now as a blocker out there. 

Then there is all the bad history of the latest generation of Tennessee WRS to flame out despite the measurables. Little better route tree and sink than the prior guys but don't think he's gonna be a tactician to get open. Prior to the combine the other knock was didn't get separation consistently, outside just running by guys who didn't press him. Let him run free and he blows by anyone though which we haven't had since tedd ginn jr (over drafted but productive in spirts)

Overall on the 3rd, it's a bold pick. As a #3 boundary guy in obvious pass downs, it's an interesting pick as a vertical threat. He can pluck the ball too. Lots of risk here but then again it's the 3rd round. Tall Ginn Jr without the blocking or return ability would be a nice find here.

[Jackie Lee]

What a Gettleman draft. Two hog mollies and and tall WR lol. Lets hope he's not Funchess 2.0

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, rmoneyg35 said:

But the point was there’s been a lot of tall wr being bust, even from Tennessee as someone listed above. Dorial Green-Beckham also comes to mind. Remember Kelvin Benjamin?

 

he simply reminds me of some of those former players, argue if you want.

Kelvin Benjamin was a talent. It wasn't talent that failed him. It was his appetite. 

How does he remind you of these former players?  I'm not arguing, I'm trying to figure out your logic. So because he's a tall WR, he automatically fits your criteria? 

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, chbright said:

Slow up on the HOF comps in here.

He isn't in Moss's sphere if you want production, and well, no one will likely be again. Claypool or Martavis Bryant were comps as a 1 trick pony that people figures out much more apt than Randy Moss. Moss was 215 at 6'4". dude here is sub 200 when he ran at the combine.

Until the combine there were lots of questions of if it was the player or the scheme. That singular 4.37 changed a lot of narratives. He isnt interested to block, and he's gonna get blown up right now as a blocker out there. 

Then there is all the bad history of the latest generation of Tennessee WRS to flame out despite the measurables. Little better route tree and sink than the prior guys but don't think he's gonna be a tactician to get open. Prior to the combine the other knock was didn't get separation consistently, outside just running by guys who didn't press him. Let him run free and he blows by anyone though which we haven't had since tedd ginn jr (over drafted but productive in spirts)

Overall on the 3rd, it's a bold pick. As a #3 boundary guy in obvious pass downs, it's an interesting pick as a vertical threat. He can pluck the ball too. Lots of risk here but then again it's the 3rd round. Tall Ginn Jr without the blocking or return ability would be a nice find here.

I smell a lot of 8-10 yard comeback routes to the sideline with no yac. 

[WUnderhill]

8 minutes ago, chbright said:

Slow up on the HOF comps in here.

 

No.

 

[Jackie Lee]

18 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Yeah we needed a deep threat makes sense.

If it makes them force Bryce to throw the deep ball to see if he can do it consistently, so be it. Horn has the speed for it but Bryce probably needs that extra arm radius and contested catch on floaters with his lack of accuracy