#3 and #4 in the NFL

[Chaos]

Godfrey = surprised

Martin = not a bit surprised

[Kuech the Sneak]

Godfrey = surprised

Martin = not a bit surprised

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I think godfreys a solid safety

[CarolinaNCSU]

Atleast Godfrey celebrates with the magic man after every tackle he makes

Hell...he celebrates with that gay poo even when he blows coverage or gives up a touchdown

I hate when he does that crap. He does it when he's not even in on plays sometimes, just near them. It's cool after a big hit/play, but not everytime you drag somebody down.

[teeray]

Our safeties are pretty good in coverage but are straight pooty against the run or tackling players after the catch.

Safety is as big a need on defense as any other position on that side of the ball.

[weymouthst]

I haven't been blown away from the safety play this season. I know it's not a priority, but all positions need to be looked at to see how they can improve. Safety is not excluded.

Don't know what the draft or FA will bring, but could see some changes at the position. It would be awesome to have a ball hawk like Reed.

[Cyberjag]

It's interesting given that Meeks had a history of developing strong defensive backs before he became a DC, and he's back to that now. I wonder what sort of impact a full camp will have for next year, or if we elect to get a new safety in the off season.

[PhillyB]

brucebrewskie and zod are right. they may not be the best tacklers in the league but that statistic is skewed simply because the number of tackles they've had to make is much higher than it normally would be. same goes for any position - some of the wide receivers with the most drops in the league also lead it in receptions and yards.

[CRA]

brucebrewskie and zod are right. they may not be the best tacklers in the league but that statistic is skewed simply because the number of tackles they've had to make is much higher than it normally would be. same goes for any position - some of the wide receivers with the most drops in the league also lead it in receptions and yards.

I don't buy that at all.

Carolina's defense hasn't had to defend more plays than any other team. Carolina's defense has given up huge plays.....they haven't had to defend an absurd amount of plays more than other teams.

Martin's missed tackles aren't skewed. Godfrey is a SS asked to make tackles against the run.

Godfrey is a SS and is suppose to come up and play the run. Carolina may be weak defensively but they aren't defending more than the average.

[DaCityKats]

CRA does that stat say weather it was a RB or WR that they missed the tackle on?

[csx]

I don't know how you watch this team and think the safeties are solid. I think some people make statements about a player and then never change their outlook on them no matter how they actually play.

[Yaboychris28]

Atleast Godfrey makes plays. Martin, not so much.

[JoCoLoco]

One thing I've noticed is Godfrey's big hits (at least on RB's) almost always happen when they're already engaged with another defender. If it's one on one, he just seems to lower his head and launch himself through the air in the general direction of the runner. I've seen him do this several times and completely whiff on the tackle.

[CRA]

CRA does that stat say weather it was a RB or WR that they missed the tackle on?

nope. Just got it from PPF. All it did was list those 2 players and where they ranked.

off the top of my head, I can name some huge passing TDs Martin has whiffed on WRs. I think Martin has been responsible for 3 50+ yard TD passes that should of been stopped for a modest gain. I would imagine Martin is more 50/50 WR and RB and Godfrey is more RB. That is just a guess though.

[DaCityKats]

nope. Just got it from PPF. All it did was list those 2 players and where they ranked.

off the top of my head, I can name some huge passing TDs Martin has whiffed on WRs. I think Martin has been responsible for 3 50+ yard TD passes that should of been stopped for a modest gain. I would imagine Martin is more 50/50 WR and RB and Godfrey is more RB. That is just a guess though.

i agree i know Martin has whiffed a lot on WR's and since the SS plays in the box a lot more pretty sure he has missed a lot more on RB's. didnt realize it was that bad as far as tackling but this spot needs to upgraded and more competition needs to be brought in.