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Who Are The Top 10 Qbs In The Nfl Right Now?


Carl Spackler

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Big Ben isn't THAT good, and Cam just had the best rookie season of all time with no signs of slowing down and he is still the most dynamic qb in the nfl, I fail to see why we cannot list him in the top 10?

He has two superbowl rings and has been consistently good for years. Cam hasn't done enough yet because he hasn't been in the league long enough yet. Slow down.

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1. Aaron Rodgers

2. Tom Brady

3. Drew Brees

4. Ben Roethlisberger

5. Eli Manning

6. Matthew Stafford

7. Philip Rivers

8. Jay Cutler

9. Michael Vick

10. Tony Romo

I'm putting Cutler in the top 10 only because his only offensive weapon for the past 2 years has been Forte and plays behind a god awful pass blocking line. I think he will be higher on most people's list if he can help keep Brandon Marshall's head on straight in their Chicago reunion. I also think Rivers just had one down year and will bounce back. Stafford I think is going to include himself in the top 5 conversation sooner rather than later. I was tempted to put Cam ahead of Romo since I think Romo has some of the best weapons in football around him, but I'll go with the proven QB (for now). I put Brees behind Rodgers and Brady because I think his numbers are inflated due to playing in a dome at least 9 games a year and his road splits show that. I put Ben above Eli because I think he's asked to carry the team and makes his receivers look better than they are (whereas I think the reverse is true for Eli). I left Peyton off purposefully, because of the major injury, obviously, he could easily return to the top 3-4 of this list if he's 80% as good as he was pre-injury.

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He has two superbowl rings and has been consistently good for years. Cam hasn't done enough yet because he hasn't been in the league long enough yet. Slow down.

He has those super bowl rings not because he was good, but because his D was amazing those years.

In 2006 when his D was not in the top 5 and most of the offense and pressure was put on his shoulders, how did he do?

18 tds - 23 ints, 8-8 record.

Hell in 2008 he was really bad but they still went 12-4. The Steelers rely on their D not their QB

Games without Ben:

wk 16 - 2011 - Win 27-0

wk 3 - 2010 - Win 38-13

wk1 - 2010 - Win 15-9

wk2 - 2010 - Win 19-11

They are 6-2 without Ben in the past four years, the two losses coming from Baltimore in incredibly close games.

Pittsburgh with Cam would be virtually invincible.

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There are only 5 elite QBs in the league right now. Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers and a healthy Petyon. Flacco will never be elite and neither will Ryan. I know Ben Roeththlisbeger has won 2 SB's, but as a QB, he is 2nd-tier. Rivers is great too, but still not and never will be elite. The only 2 other current NFL QB's that can reach ELITE status IMO, are Cam and Stafford.

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