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Person: Jackson, Shurmer, Shula finalists for OC job

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Posted this in another thread, but yea, it still applies.

It's time to take Cam's development to the next level now. Get an OC in there that will play a more balanced pro style offense where the whole team is involved. Instead of this bullshit college offense Chud's been running where Cam is supposed to be the entire offense.

Out of the known candidates we've interviewed Jackson is the best option. I don't believe in his third year with the team if he's(Shula*) ready for all of that, and there's no reason to hire Shurmur unless Pickles is starting next season.

*Edit, I was typing this up from my phone.

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Not to disparage Whisenhunt, but in fairness that was against John "my cornerbacks are assigned to the left and right side no matter where the other team's best receiver lines up" Fox.

Fine, but he also beat a heavily favored Atlanta team and a heavily favored Eagles team before losing a close contest to the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

Again, compare that to our other candidates and tell me he shouldn't get a look if interested.

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He is great with quarterbacks, that's his thing. We have personnel to adjust to what he wants to do, and I believe he would work wonders with Cam.

Oh, we do not have the right personnel for a West Coast Offense, and I'm not just talking about Newton.

Our receiving corps and tight end group are dominated by longball guys. And honestly our O-Line isn't really built for that either.

We'd need a major retooling to run that kind of attack effectively.

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Oh, we do not have the right personnel for a West Coast Offense, and I'm not just talking about Newton.

Our receiving corps and tight end group are dominated by longball guys. And honestly our O-Line isn't really built for that either.

We'd need a major retooling to run that kind of attack effectively.

He would run a different style of west coast I imagine. Think 2004-2008 Eagles. We have the WR that can take the screens and go for bombs, we have a pass catching RB, etc etc. Not that I think it will be pure west coast, Shurmur can obviously adjust.

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I think Jackson or Shula would do a good job. It is funny that people go back to 1999 to say Shula wasn't very good in Tampa so there should be issues. That was 13 years ago. I wonder if he has learned anything since then?? Seems to have done a pretty good job with Newton. Didn't Rivera say that much of Cam's development was created to Shula's work with him. If Jackson takes the job and Shula leaves because he was not given the job we will be replacing him as well. Who knows if the next guy would be better than Shula. Might be another Rip Scherer who actually hurt Jake more than he helped him.

I don't know if it applies to you, but I've seen people making this "I bet he's learned something after sucking 13 years ago" who also make the argument "Don't get Cowher, the game left him behind since he coached 6 years ago."

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Not to disparage Whisenhunt, but in fairness that was against John "my cornerbacks are assigned to the left and right side no matter where the other team's best receiver lines up" Fox.

That's ignoring the fact that his offense lit up the Eagles defense (in Jim Johnson's last game) and gained over 450 yards against the Steelers defense in the Super Bowl (which was by far the best defense in the NFL that year and one of the best of the last decade.)

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Fine, but he also beat a heavily favored Atlanta team and a heavily favored Eagles team before losing a close contest to the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

Again, compare that to our other candidates and tell me he shouldn't get a look if interested.

That's ignoring the fact that his offense lit up the Eagles defense (in Jim Johnson's last game) and gained over 450 yards against the Steelers defense in the Super Bowl (which was by far the best defense in the NFL that year and one of the best of the last decade.)

Oh, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve a shot, though I doubt he'll get one.

My only concern would be the system difference, but it's nowhere near the adjustment that Shurmur would be.

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Oh, we do not have the right personnel for a West Coast Offense, and I'm not just talking about Newton.

Our receiving corps and tight end group are dominated by longball guys. And honestly our O-Line isn't really built for that either.

We'd need a major retooling to run that kind of attack effectively.

Just because Murphy has speed doesnt mean hes only a long ball guy. I think Lafell, and Murphy would be much better in a WCO system where crossing routes and possession is more important. I would say Gettis even to an extent... with good speed. Bigger possession guys. First time I have not agreed with something you've said. strange.

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