teams weren't offering much for williams

[bleys]

 

 

 

DWill does not in fact break a "home run" once every 20 carries..  it equates to roughly once every 3 games..  so there's that.

[Davidson Deac II]

Excluding games with the Saints and their historically comical D.

Williams averaged 3.3 yards a carry, 1 run of 20 + , a 20 yard run every 148 carries

Stewart averaged 3.4 yards a carry, 2 runs of 20 + , a 20 yards carry every 41 carries

Again, Williams isn't that guy anymore....both age and offense dictate that.

 

Given those stats, neither Williams or Stewart is that guy.  Or there might be problems with other aspects of the game. 

[nosuchthingasapanther]

 

 

 

if a touchdown of 15 yards or more is your definition of a homerun, then yes...williams is twice as likely to hit one than stewart. in their careers...

 

williams hits a homerun once every 49 touches, stewart every 102.

[frash.exe]

by innumerable are we talking on a scale very large like in the hundreds or barely double digits since iamhubby probably couldn't count to say, 5 or 6?

[Panthro]

And Jake Delhomme has more passing yards than cam so lets resign him based on past statistics

[MasterAwesome]

 

 

 

What is your obsession with homerun threats?  Where is the homerun threat on New England, who had the #1 offense last year and is consistently a top 5 offense?  Do you consider Marshawn Lynch and Alfred Morris to be homerun threats?  I'd say they're recognized as bruisers who effectively run in between the tackles (NOT homerun threats by any means)...yet they were #2 and #3 in rushing last year.  I think Stewart is a very similar player to Lynch/Morris, and although he's a bruiser, he has very underrated speed from what I've seen watching the Panthers for years.  I know the combine isn't the whole picture, but he ran a 4.46 40 which is pretty solid...that's .04 sec slower than Patterson who is praised for his explosiveness.  But anyways, to have a good offense you need players who can consistently move the chains.  Excluding last year when Chud destroyed our run-game with the read-option, Jonathan Stewart has been a back we could rely on to consistently move the chains. 

 

Between your fascination with homerun threats and your desire (which you emphasized post after post after post) for Gettleman to draft the best "athlete" rather than the best player in the draft, you seem to have a very flawed perspective on NFL personnel and how offenses thrive in the NFL.  It seems like if it was up to you, our entire team would consist of super freaks who run 4.2 40s and can jump 7 feet in the air (nevermind their technique or instincts).  Football is so much more than speed and explosiveness...it's not track. 

[MasterAwesome]

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200 yards is still one hell of an accomplishment. It irks me no end when folks downplay this achievement. Just because you hate his contract is no reason to try and downplay his ability.

 

Oh yeah, plug and play RBs don't go for 200 yards. And this is not the first time he has done this. Yeah let's just roll with plug along Stewy and Tolbert. So what if we don't get any splash plays, there is no real need to scare the D with another weapon. We will do just fine with these two. Or Cam and two nobodies if you believe CRA.

 

Short sighted to dismiss DWill. Until he is gone, he is our ONLY true threat at RB.

 

Did everyone just overlook this post where he appeared to have successfully made a reply OUTSIDE the quoted box?  So obviously his computer is capable of doing it; but apparently he did it unknowingly?  3rd post down on page 9...

 

[Delhommey]

I like to root for the underdog so I'm totally pulling for this guy to beat the quote button even just once.

[Cpt slay a ho]

find it funny people laugh at dwills 200 yard game agaisnt the saints, bad defense or not dwill always seems to bust the saints ass when we play them. That being said i am a dwill fan and i am a j stew fan, they both were unutilized last year and that should be as close to a fact as possible, basically they both sucked best soultion would be to find dwills replacement soon unless he magically restuctures/paycut, tolbert can take j stews place and cut them both........sad but its what would be best, the truth is there both top 10 rb's in the john fox offense we use to run but now we rely a little less on the run, making double trouble obsolete. They are both good backs but with era changes if your not adrian peterson then your not worth the big bucks

[SmootsDaddy89]

Fun facts:

 

 

1. Stew runs the 40 faster than D-Will. So that homerun stuff is just a dumb placemarker for an actual argument. Almost as dumb as. . .

 

2. D is a team guy! We shouldn't cut him cause he is a team player. If this were actually true, he would do what actual team players (Jordan Gross) do and take a paycut, and make it easy for both sides. I'm sure he's a wonderful, funny, happy-go-lucky dude, but athletes craft that image of a team guy or whatever you want to call it SPECIFICALLY because it makes it harder on the ownership to cut them rather than overpay them because they then look like the bad guys and have to deal with a bunch of angry iamhubby clones berating them on shitty radio shows.

[CPF4LIFE]

How the hell can anybody come to the conclusion that D Will has fell off when he has barely touched the ball the past 2 seasons? I can understand his contract reason for cutting him but fell off?......No. And you have to be pretty dumb if you think we should put all our chips in Stewart to be a feature RB, the dude has a glass foot. I dont care how many games he has played, you put more on his plate and he gets hurt. To much of a risk, and far as production neither one  of them has done that much or broke apart from one another in that regard so if D Will doesnt deserve his contract Stewart damn sure doesnt deserve his so cut them both when the time is right.

[Cpt slay a ho]

How the hell can anybody come to the conclusion that D Will has fell off when he has barely touched the ball the past 2 seasons? I can understand his contract reason for cutting him but fell off?......No. And you have to be pretty dumb if you think we should put all our chips in Stewart to be a feature RB, the dude has a glass foot. I dont care how many games he has played, you put more on his plate and he gets hurt. To much of a risk, and far as production neither one  of them has done that much or broke apart from one another in that regard so if D Will doesnt deserve his contract Stewart damn sure doesnt deserve his so cut them both when the time is right.

 

this

[frash.exe]

who even cares to argue whether or not he's fallen off I swear to god there is not another fanbase that is as aspergers as this one over this GOTTA HAVE 2 FEATURE BACKS GOTTA HAVE THEM IF YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T COMPETE ONE GETS INJURED YOU HAVE THE OTHER THIS IS WORTH LIKE 20% OF THE CAP mentality

 

The future of this team is in Cam's passing and shutting down QBs like Drew Brees and Eli Manning, not this corny gimmicky fantasy of handing it off 75% of the time and having 8 1,000 yard rushers that has never materialized and in seven seasons has never gotten us even one playoff win. I remember our 2005 playoff run where Foster was basically limping up the middle until he got his ankle shattered in Chicago and we won the game despite having a depleted backfield because Smitty singlehandedly made the passing game explosive as hell and probably had more YAC himself than the receiving core of some entire teams, and we actually played defense at that time.

 

 I'm sick of this positional worship of the running back, this concept that has been put forth to justify starving other, more crucial positions of talent for years that has yielded not one iota of success, and I hate this idea that people are fixated on that we need two franchise backs. We don't. No one did. No team that has won a championship since we drafted them has hedged their bets and put so many chips into the running back position like we have because they don't try to rationalize overpaying for a fan favorite or lowering the bar on 20+ yard runs to subjectively define "explosiveness". What are people afraid of when it comes to cutting Williams, that we're going to be able to spend that money on more important positions and end up winning some games because the talent is going to go where it matters?

[Creep59]

Did everyone just overlook this post where he appeared to have successfully made a reply OUTSIDE the quoted box?  So obviously his computer is capable of doing it; but apparently he did it unknowingly?  3rd post down on page 9...

 

 

 

 

the first couple of days of this new forum look I couldnt make a quote outside the box for some reason either - some sort of quirk with the forum and web browser I suspect.