Competency Trumps Continuity

[Harris Aballah]

_{The system might have worked this weekend had smith & lafelle converted on two huge plays in the 1st half. When lafelle dropped the 4th and 1 pass it seemed all the momentum shifted to the cardinals and never swung back. Possibly because the playcalling became an act of desperation? It seemed Olsen was our best option, but was never to be seen again in the 2nd half. I feel like we abandoned whatever gameplan we had. Unless that plan was td or bust?}

[CRA]

I am not all for firing people and things of that nature but Gettleman should have had his choice of the coaching staff. I am hoping Shula gets it together but so far it is not looking good. It is not just coaching though. When we finally call the right plays, our players seem to forget how to play football. We are 1-3 with plenty of football left. I just hope we can turn it around and make a run. One question, I was hearing a lot that the Panthers were only willing to sign an OC to a one year contract. Where is everyone getting that from?

Fox got handicapped as well late with OCs. Our HCs don't get to hire anyone they want....they settle on poo.

Fox and Rivera both were made to look worse than they are by our front office.

I am done coach bashing until our FO steps up. They deserve the blame. They are the worst part of the equation

[SpeedOFLight]

Fox got handicapped as well late with OCs. Our HCs don't get to hire anyone they want....they settle on poo.

Fox and Rivera both were made to look worse than they are by our front office.

I am done coach bashing until our FO steps up. They deserve the blame. They are the worst part of the equation

 

 

I definitely understand what you are saying. Our FO is the reasoning why we were strapped for cash. If only we had an OC that would utilize this talent we would have a winning record. I strongly believe that. The defense has put us in good positions all year. We just can't score.

[stirs]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000128512/article/mike-tolbert-mike-shula-hire-positive-for-cam-newton

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9269234/mike-shula-carolina-panthers-handling-adversity-cam-newton-big-task

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/02/01/3827657/cam-newton-excited-about-being.html#.UlP2iRBv5fk

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-quarterback-time-is-now-winning-season-offensive-coordinator-mike-shula-080713

 

 

 

 

[CRA]

I definitely understand what you are saying. Our FO is the reasoning why we were strapped for cash. If only we had an OC that would utilize this talent we would have a winning record. I strongly believe that. The defense has put us in good positions all year. We just can't score.

our players have done Shula no favors.

I think they overall have been a bigger disappointment than Shula. Dropped balls and fumbled away opportunities against Sea, dropped balls against AZ in scoring scenarios early.

So even if we changed what we are doing on O....that stuff stops any from working

[SpeedOFLight]

our players have done Shula no favors.

I think they overall have been a bigger disappointment than Shula. Dropped balls and fumbled away opportunities against Sea, dropped balls against AZ in scoring scenarios early.

So even if we changed what we are doing on O....that stuff stops any from working

 

True. Just when we are finally moving the chains, something always happen. Whether a big fumble at the wrong time, a drop pass that would have moved the chains or our players dropping a sure TD. It baffles me sometimes how this always happen to us. While I do agree accountability starts up top, players are still the ones that have to go out there and execute. Heck, you can have the best OC in history and if the players suddenly forgot how to protect the ball, protect the QB or make a catch, it all won't mean a thing.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

Yeah but shula went undefeated as a head coach with the dolphins

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[teeray]

I can't say that I am thrilled with Shula but he isn't the only scapegoat in all of this. Plus I will judge his entire body of work and not rely on just 4 games, 2 of which were more on the players than the scheme

[rayzor]

he is who i feared he would be.

 

it's just a shame the players can't execute perfectly, which apparently is needed for shula´s offense to work cause even just one mistake throws everything off and they can never adjust the offense to get back on track.

 

it's also a shame that opposing defenses adapt to what we do because that just hurts our set in stone gameplan. i mean what's a team to do? adapt and adjust mid game to do something that works? who does that?

[stirs]

The players were all behind Shula, Cam behind Shula, who also seems to have to be waaaaay more than an OC.  Read between the lines in some of the articles I posted.

[UNCrules2187]

I remember posting that "Shula fired" Bucs OC newspaper clip and some idiot here tried to be like "oh yeah well you probably weren't even born when Shula was OC of the Bucs" or some dumb poo.

 

Yeah, joke's on you buddy.

[Cyberjag]

It isn't hindsight for everyone

 

Sometimes history is a bitch.  And when you bring it up, you get shouted down with all these reasons why it will be different this time, and maybe you get that ONE example where the historical trend didn't hold.

 

Anyone want to guess how many coaches who didn't produce a winning record in their first two years with a team went on to have successful careers there?

[Panthro]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000128512/article/mike-tolbert-mike-shula-hire-positive-for-cam-newton

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9269234/mike-shula-carolina-panthers-handling-adversity-cam-newton-big-task

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/02/01/3827657/cam-newton-excited-about-being.html#.UlP2iRBv5fk

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-quarterback-time-is-now-winning-season-offensive-coordinator-mike-shula-080713

 

Where did it mention dumbing down the offense?

[Guest]

I am not all for firing people and things of that nature but Gettleman should have had his choice of the coaching staff. I am hoping Shula gets it together but so far it is not looking good. It is not just coaching though. When we finally call the right plays, our players seem to forget how to play football. We are 1-3 with plenty of football left. I just hope we can turn it around and make a run. One question, I was hearing a lot that the Panthers were only willing to sign an OC to a one year contract. Where is everyone getting that from?

 

To answer your question directly, this is Rivera's last year on his contract. Clearly if things didn't go well he wouldn't be retained. When a new coach comes in he brings in his own coordinators/staff.  Therefore, whichever OC was interviewed, he would look at it as only a one year deal, possibly, and then look elsewhere for a long-term deal. No wonder Panthers got turned down by everyone and went with the "oh its for continuity lets promote shula" thing.