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The_Mango55 Newbie

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Not really, because I wasn't. There is a difference between productivity and potential. Everyone is operating on the assumption that they know what the problem was--I think I do--hear me out

Maturity. We had a young coach, a young QB, a young DC, and (last year) a young OC and an unproven one this year.

Cam was not playing up to his potential (2-14) in games we were leading in the 4th. Rivera was not coaching up to his potential--playing it safe and never giving his talent a chance to shine.

I was not wrong. When we started winning, everyone noted the changes I had been asking for---more leadership from Cam, better game management from Rivera.

The line is worse now than when we were losing. We have the same receivers. What changed? I was not wrong, but I am happy that I am no longer right about that stuff.

You were not wrong that we needed to execute better and now we are, but everyone could see that so your observation was nothing special.

However you were absolutely wrong in thinking that we should have ever considered blowing up the team. Sure we were not playing up to our potential and that was bad, but it's far better to play worse than you can and do poorly than to play as well as you can and still suck. Close losses can be turned to wins with minor adjustments, wholesale firings are unnecessary.

So to sum up, the people who were preaching patience with the current regime and insisted we were very close were right. The people who were insisting that we needed to start over were wrong.

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lol to the quote: "i like teams that blow out bad teams."

 

 

I completely agree with this, but back just a few shorts weeks ago the media's sentiment was: "oh the Panthers haven't played anyone good."

 

logic does not compute

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lol hubby rabidly spends years defending terrible players and executives and then when the team is actually good he's all "yeahp, nah, just don't see t guiz"

Ah growl. Does my optimism scare you so badly, you feel the need to jump on a comment that you take to be negative? I realize I have had more faith in this team that you seem to have had. You know what? I am typing this with a smile on my face, giddy over the possibilities to come.

Football, to me, is more fun when I smile. I enjoy enjoying life. I am tickled pink to be able to do so. The Pantherz have been rather successful in their short existence. To me, that is just too cool.

I guess because I am not spoiled by this success. (Being a lifelong Lions fan and all.) I am somehow happier than you, because you won't be happy until total success is achieved. I am giddy over the past, the present, and the future. You seem to be waiting until you can celebrate before you will be happy.

I get that you get more attention when you do your cute little schtick, than you do with your football acumen. So I thought I would acknowledge you by responding to it. Hope this helps.

And GOOOOOOOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Soo.. I have to ask you.. How much playoff experience did our guys from the 2003 squad have? Sorry but I think that whole Playoff experience crap is overrated. However I will agree with you that the future does look very bright and it's only the beginning!

SF last year. Great young team. Ravens, much more experienced. Ravens won. SF let it get away from them. Was it youth? Inexperience? Both? Or just how the game played out?

You know, maybe in todays NFL, Playoff Experience may be overrated. But you have to have seen it in the past. Young first time teams seem to struggle. Manning didn't get a Super Bowl right away. Brady? Fug him. Marino never got 1. Point being, we are young. That, to me, is the only thing that scares me about this teams chances to win it all. THIS YEAR.

Sure we can run the table. I would love it no end. We have the one thing you need. A great Defense. Offenses may show out more. But if you can't slow people down, or even stop them occasionally. You are putting yourself behind the eight ball.

This is just our first run. How many more do we have with Cam, Keek, Star, and this team? Plenty my friend. Plenty.

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My apologies. There was too much horrible grammar in his post for me to sort through. Either way, "on top" vs. "on the top" is by far the least egregious of all of the grammatical mistakes in his post. 

 

You're welcome.

 

You can do better than finding errors in my sentence. I have dozens friends come from other countries, and when I chat with them in Chinese, I never point our how poor they speak our language because I know it's hard for them to do as good as I do, it's unfair.

 

But for you, I guess you can't simply talk with me if you have such an honor to talk with me one day, because you are so busy at pointing out my errors on grammar. lol

 

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I come here to talk about the Panthers, not to learn your fuging language.

 

And if you can't sort through my poor sentence, you can leave it alone and carry on, I don't force you to read it, you great grammar master.

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Right now, I'd say the Panthers are a top 7 team due to our vulnerability of the deep threat in the secondary, lack of a young talented receiver corps and inconsistent offensive production due to inability to run the ball at times.  I think San Fran, Denver, Pats, Saints and Seattle are better teams.  The Panthers can beat all of these teams but still concerned about the secondary.

 

If we beat  NO this weekend, that elevates Panthers to Top 5.  Will Ron, Shula and Cam make the right decisions in a hostile environment this weekend?  Panthers win this one, definitely a top-5 team as confidence continues to build and grow with a winning mentality to win the close games.

 

 

So what your saying is, is that two teams we've beaten and have better/same win loss record then are better then us?  

 

I don't get it.

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SF last year. Great young team. Ravens, much more experienced. Ravens won. SF let it get away from them. Was it youth? Inexperience? Both? Or just how the game played out?

You know, maybe in todays NFL, Playoff Experience may be overrated. But you have to have seen it in the past. Young first time teams seem to struggle. Manning didn't get a Super Bowl right away. Brady? Fug him. Marino never got 1. Point being, we are young. That, to me, is the only thing that scares me about this teams chances to win it all. THIS YEAR.

Sure we can run the table. I would love it no end. We have the one thing you need. A great Defense. Offenses may show out more. But if you can't slow people down, or even stop them occasionally. You are putting yourself behind the eight ball.

This is just our first run. How many more do we have with Cam, Keek, Star, and this team? Plenty my friend. Plenty.

We don't need to be scared of anything. This is football. If we win we win.

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Right now, I'd say the Panthers are a top 7 team due to our vulnerability of the deep threat in the secondary, lack of a young talented receiver corps and inconsistent offensive production due to inability to run the ball at times. I think San Fran, Denver, Pats, Saints and Seattle are better teams. The Panthers can beat all of these teams but still concerned about the secondary.

If we beat NO this weekend, that elevates Panthers to Top 5. Will Ron, Shula and Cam make the right decisions in a hostile environment this weekend? Panthers win this one, definitely a top-5 team as confidence continues to build and grow with a winning mentality to win the close games.

our weakness is getting beat deep?

Then why haven't we've been beat deep all season?

We have a young secondary. I get that.

They've even.made a few errors the last few games.

But to say our weakness is getting beat deep, tells me you haven't been watching much of this season.

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