Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Sheldon Richardson "making" some noise. Says he'd go #1 in re-do

top dawg

By top dawg,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
Posted

Link (per nfl.com's Dan Hanzus)

 

Richardson is a legit Defensive Rookie of the Year candidateand, on Wednesday, he was asked where he believed he'd go if there were a draft re-do.

 

"Probably No. 1, most likely," Richardson said, via ESPNNewYork.com. "Kansas City? Yeah. I went into the draft thinking I'd be the No. 1 pick. I had a shot."

 

 

 

 

"Most definitely. I still think I'm 13, 12 picks late if you ask me. Just playing," Richardson joked. "It's all fun and games and I'm glad he's balling, too. Thirteen, 14 and now we're both going for defensive rookies of the year. Can't ask for much better than that."

 

 

He is kinda giving Star a little respect.

 

We are all a bunch of homers, so I know that some of us may have a hard time being objective, but why would Richardson get the honor as opposed to Star?  PFF showed Star's prowess in run stopping, but my contention has always been that sometimes a player's impact upon his team and the game can't be measured solely by stats. Star's impact has been prolific. What about Richardson? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted

Richardson reminds me of Kris Jenkins. While Star is Ngata.

 

Except both guys are a good 30-40+ pounds lighter than the guys you're comparing them to.  Maybe guys like Star and Richardson (but especially Star considering his run stuffing style) will show coaches and GMs that a guy doesn't have to be north of 320 to effectively hold the point of attack in the NFL.  Kris Jenkins has a much longer career playing at or around 310 than he had playing at 330 (okay, he was listed at 330 but you'd have to be insane to think that he wasn't over 350 for much of his career). I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a couple of training camps where he showed up just a couple of cajun filet biscuits away from 400.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Captroop Grand Master

Captroop

Posted
Posted

Two different players playing the same position differently. It's hard to think of comparing two rookie DTs as an Apples and Oranges comparison, but it is. Richardson is an individual stat machine, which ultimately will probably win him the DROY. But the smart money would be on Star, who elevates the entire defense around him with his dominating and block-eating style of play.

 

If Sheldon had a shot at going number 1, then Star definitely did as well. However if you ask any GM, I doubt either a QB pressuring DT or a lane clogging run stopper DT would have a reasonable expectation to go number one overall. It's a position that just to many people think can be serviceable in the mid rounds. And I am inclined to agree that the drop off in talent between a top 10 pick and a mid-rounder is much steeper amongst the skill position players than a DT.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
jtnc Newbie

jtnc

Posted
Posted

Except both guys are a good 30-40+ pounds lighter than the guys you're comparing them to. Maybe guys like Star and Richardson (but especially Star considering his run stuffing style) will show coaches and GMs that a guy doesn't have to be north of 320 to effectively hold the point of attack in the NFL. Kris Jenkins has a much longer career playing at or around 310 than he had playing at 330 (okay, he was listed at 330 but you'd have to be insane to think that he wasn't over 350 for much of his career). I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a couple of training camps where he showed up just a couple of cajun filet biscuits away from 400.

Jenkins actually weighed 360 in his last years

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MadHatter Rookie

MadHatter

Posted
Posted

Yeah, I hope people are intelligent enough to consider their positions when comparing the two. They're both DT's, but in different systems with different alignments and responsbilities.

 

I wasn't high on Richardson, guess I was wrong.

 

Richardson is playing very well in the Jets 3-4 defense.  I am still not conviced that he would have nearly the impact in our 4-3 defense that Star is having.

 

Both players got lucky that they were drafted into the right schemes to succeed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted

I wasn't high on Richardson, guess I was wrong.

 

I wasn't either.  But, mainly because of Star.  If you were to sit down with a blank sheet of paper to design the DT that we needed, you'd be hard pressed to create a better prospect for us than Star.  That's no knock on Richardson, it's just that Star was the perfect guy for us and he just happened to fall into our laps, in part because the Jets opted to take Richardson.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Steves89
      The "now it's been three years" Grade for the 2023 Draft

      By Steves89 · Posted

      Didn't  see this posted (since 2023) but since folks have been posting that you can't judge a draft class for three years (a ridiculous take), I thought I'd post this to see what people thought about the 2023 draft. Unfortunately this may not be the most interesting class to do this with but I do quite like retrospective draft grades. Would appreciate other's takes on this (and other recent) draft classes.   1(1) - Bryce Young QB: I am a bigger Bryce Young apologist than most (maybe all). I like the kid. But there is no way around it: This was a terrible pick. If he had been picked in the 4th or even the 3rd round I would feel pretty good about it. But this was the first overall pick that we gave up two firsts, our best offensive player to get.  GRADE: C -    2(39) - Jonathan Mingo WR: not much to say here here. He was here for two years. His yards per catch are on par with Bryce's yards per pass. Rough stuff. To date he has still never scored a touchdown in the NFL GRADE: F   3(80) - DJ Johnson OLB: a pick I hated as soon as it happened and an example of why the premise of this thread is honestly dumb. This was a bad pick when it happened. Most people knew it.  Then came training camp and he did not look good. Then came the preseason which confirmed what we saw in TC. Then came the season which confirmed what we saw in preseason. To date, he has half a sack in his career. GRADE: F 4 (114) Chandlers Zavala G: Honestly the best pick of this draft which really speaks to how awful this draft is. Other than Bryce, the only pick still on the team. He is mostly average or below average depth which in round 4 is not terrible. But he had a pff score of 43.5 and though I think people have unrealistic expectations for draft picks, I still would want a little more from a fourth round pick GRADE: C+   5 (145) - Jammie Robinson S: I liked the pick when it happened but ended up being a disappointment. He logged 1 tackle with the falcons last year and not enough snaps to get a grade on PFF.  GRADE: F OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: F  
    • Kuhndog94
      26 first goal playoff thread

      By Kuhndog94 · Posted

      You gonna make me post Stank before every game?  I kid, I kid. 
    • DavidEng
      NHL 2026 Playoff Thread

      By DavidEng · Posted

      Final Avs 9 Wild 6. Defense never entered the building lol.
×
×
  • Create New...