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Just force him to make bench changes and fire some of his staff. He will refuse and resign from being the head coach.

I feel like the owner will give Rod one more season. I don’t agree with it, but I have a feeling that is how it will play out. That said sometimes firing a coach that has failed in the playoffs time and time again can occasionally give the team a boost when the new coach comes it and takes them to the promised land. Even if Rod somehow says he needs to try something different we know from past experience that is just coach talk. Like Rivera during his final season. Said during the off-season he can’t keep coaching the same way if he wants to keep his job, but once the season started he fell back into his old ways. Same thing would happen to Rod.

I have the same feeling now as I did right before the 2nd year of the John Fox era.

The love/hate relationship with PFF here over the years amuses me greatly. But I do appreciate this content. Training camp should be fun.

We will go as far as our defense carries us. While I expect the offense to be the better unit, IF our defense can get stops, turnovers, giving our offense short fields, this team will absolutely be dangerous.

Worst thing is, we were all set to draft Mitchell, but decided to grab Malik Monk when he dropped.

My whole point in wanting T-Mac was because it unlocks the rest of the offense. Yeah, we were getting by when teams stacked the box with AT but that was it as our only reliable receiver.. and so teams just all out blitz and it not only hurt our pass game but it hurt our run game too as those blitz make it harder to run unless you perfectly block everyone on the first level.

Is it just me or are we staring at a really really talented player at #4? Ace Bailey and VJ Edgecombe are not exactly consolation prizes and either would fit perfectly with this young nucleus.

Amen

Hakstol, Sullivan or Woodcroft would be good choices.

I'm glad we can find common ground on these issues. I think most of the folks in the fanbase are burned out from not only the losing but the same discussions. This is a put up or shut up year in many ways for sure. Hopefully things go relatively according to plan and come December we are talking about further building around our core and competing for the playoffs in the not so distant future instead of bickering about why this or that was a failure yet again. Here's to hoping

It's both somehow. He was trying to say the rest of the team sucks. But, when you say certain guys can't be your best players, you are by default saying those players aren't good enough either.

if Rod is fired, who could the Canes turn to? any good coaches still free?

It's the whole state. I blame Zebulon Vance or maybe the Roanoke colonists. This poo goes back!

I mean a few factors but the design of the offense has more to do with it than anything else IMO. Rod doesnt have any kind of creation going shot wise its all forecheck cycle shoot low danger look for tips and put ins.

I liked his run support and tackling. He gives up some yards but that’s gonna happen when you don’t let Horn shadow the #1 receiver.

I think the recent breakdown video of Bryce(posted in here) shows really the biggest issue from a play callers standpoint that hurts Bryce. He is very often off schedule because he has poor footwork and it can lead to him looking around what appears to be aimlessly because he is waiting for the play to unfold. It also impacts his decision making because he is making decisions before the play is really able to unfold.

Yeah i mean why is it they are your best players? Why do our top guys suddenly disappear over and over and over again? Time to look in the mirror.

It's not impossible to go from worst to first. We kept Evero because anyone in there right mind knew our defense was destroyed by injuries, not the scheme. Evero has been given a plethora of talent between free agency and the draft, not to mention getting DB back. I fully expect our defense to be very good. I have no reason to think Jones would say something like that unless he truly felt like that.

We would’ve played Florida and lost in the 1st instead of the 3rd round. Montreal would have been the 8 seed.

I can't get behind a purely subjective re-draft as a method of defining "top-10 QB" status. That invites bias based on vibes/hypotheticals and can ignore actual on-field performance. You and others have said that Bryce has to be a top-10 QB to justify the pick. That's a high bar, which I'm not against, but we need a clear, consistent way to measure it. When I bring up metrics that Bryce has registered in the top-10 in like BTT%, P2S ratio, catchable deep ball rate, etc... they're waved off as either irrelevant or the expected baseline performance. Meanwhile, volume stats like passing yards or win-loss records, both of which depend heavily on roster talent, health, and coaching, are treated as definitive. That's where the inconsistency kicks in. If no performance metric ever counts in his favor and the answer is always going to be "he should be doing that," then we're not evaluating him... we're just holding him to a curve he can't win against. If this is really about performance standards, then let's define them. But if it's just about confirming prior takes based on height and weight, then let's call it what is it and stop pretending that this is a football analysis discussion.

Just to be clear: I'm not "downplaying" the talent around Bryce... I'm qualifying it. There's a big difference between saying, "we finally have building blocks that we're actually developing" and "we've done enough to say this is a finished product, NO EXCUSES!" It's possible to believe that the 2023 situation was bad and to believe that the current state, while improved, is still incomplete. That's not inconsistency; that's nuance. As for the footwork stuff, again, I've seen the same clips as others. The claim that Bryce is hopping to see over the line just isn't one I've seen corroborated by analysts or tape breakdown. "Both feet off of the ground to throw" happens a ton for QBs (ex: Mahomes, Rodgers, Purdy, etc.), especially when improvising. You're right that there were some encouraging flashes from Bryce last season, and it's nice to finally hear that after so much time was spent pretending otherwise. I'm not arguing that Bryce is elite, I'm just asking that we evaluate him using consistent, measurable criteria to determine his status as a top-10 QB... whether it's via 3rd down %, red zone efficiency, turnover-worthy plays, or yes, big-time throws (which, by the way, has been a valid part of QB evaluation across the league for years even if it wasn't used here during Kyle Allen or Teddy Bridgewater's years. For reference: Allen had 20 BTT at a 3.9% rate. Teddy had 17 BTT at 3.3%). Like you, I'm hoping to see a competent, entertaining offense this season. That's a baseline we can all root for, even if we don't have the same baseline for what makes a QB top-10 (which, to be fair, is what this conversation has been about... though I respect the attempt to reframe it).