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Kucci been ready for this...

And those 3 months line up with perfect disc golf/hiking/beach weather. It's pretty remarkable when you think about it... the perfect sport!

Yeah you know the Panthers finally have made strides when two vets that have contributed across the league (Hunter Renfrow and David Moore) will probably fight it out for the last spot. Good problem to have.

Never eclipsed 100 yards in a game last year? Does 11 catches for 175 yards and 3 TDS against the Rams not count for some reason? https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401671772/49ers-rams You are saying the reason for Jennings production being better than any other panthers WR was that he played with a horrible defense and had more opportunties? The panthers literally fielded the worst statistical defense of all time so not sure how that argument holds any water. And how do you figure that thielens per game numbers are better? Jennings only played 15 games and was 25 yards short of 1k, that’s 65 yards per game vs. Thielen’s 61.5. He averaged more catches per game too. As I said before, Jennings was like the 5th option on the Niners super team from 2022 and 2023 so yeah of course his counting stats aren’t going to be all that impressive to look at from those years. The 4 other options in front of him (Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, and CMC) were all pro-bowlers. But he’s produced whenever he’s been called on and would be a solid #2 WR on most teams.

If you count the playoffs and preseason, the NHL is playing games for all but three months of the year. 27 week reg season, few weeks for pre season, 8-9 weeks for the playoffs. Think it's roughly 40 out of 52 weeks a year. Which is kinda insane when you think about it.

Second that. We’ve been through wayyy to many years of one decent wr being considered enough ha

This is the offense we were gaslighted into believing we had in 2023 and so justified trading up for a QB. Regardless, the past is the past. On paper, this is definitely the best unit since 2021, maybe 2017. It's Year 3 for Bryce. Everything is lining up. I've been a BY9 supporter more than most, but this is his year to show out and he has the supporting cast. Cam didn't make the playoffs until Year 3. But statistically, the goods ones do by this time. I'm legit excited for this offense- hope they dont let us down.

Very good write up OP. Really enjoyed reading it. The camp battle for the final WR spot(s) will be fascinating. I think Renfrow will have the inside track if he is remotely like the guy he once was. Good route runners are the best friend of a QB throwing with anticipation. Im intrigued by Jacolby George, but I think there's a good chance the team will release and then sign back to PS unless he really impresses. I wouldn't be completely surprised if David Moore gets the final WR spot. He can play a lot of different roles and knows Canales system. He really contributed over the last few games, but hes not a long term or even intermediate term solution so hopefully we can upgrade. Moore fits here, but I dont think we would have a lot of competition if he was cut and then brought back if needed

I think this is the strongest we've been at WR, RB, TE and Oline in a long time.

LOL! Yeah, the pearl clutching by some folks is just a little crazy. Of all the things in the world to get triggered by, a sports league dunking on your favorite football team's incompetence is the one you pick? Okay...

LOL! Yeah, the pearl clutching by some folks is just a little crazy. Of all the things in the world to get triggered by, a sports league dunking on your favorite football team's incompetence is the one you pick? Okay...

Agreed. Our offense is getting pretty complete, maybe a legit TE1 but not many teams have that. Hopefully Bryce keeps developing and we could have a fun offense to watch for a change. The good news is next class looks to be loaded with QB talent if we need it and our situation on offense should be good for a rookie as well.

How dare they spread such filth. Just inhumanely terrible.

We have a pretty talented offense, and a serviceable defense. We should finish middle of the pack this year. The X Factor, of course, is the QB. If he elevates his play then we can have a middle of the pack team overachieve and make the playoffs.

a healthy aiyuc would start over theilen, but jennings hasnt shown much he was forced to be the starter the majority of the year last year with a horrible defense and never eclipsed 100yards in a game. When theilen was healthy he outproduced jennings on a per game basis with worse qb play. Like I said all opinions but I havnt seen anything out of him to say he is anything more than a third wr, maybe a 2nd if the other options are bad. his career stats pretty much support that he has never been anywhere near ATs better years.

Very true. Sports are also getting crazier than ever. I have seen full blown armored fights making a combat. Bonkers to me Medieval fights are a thing again. I don't watch it enough to know, but how has someone not died or been seriously injured?

Definitely not a classy move. They deleted it, though. Maybe they realized that. Maybe they got a call from Tepp lol.

Wanted to take a step back and look at how the Panthers' WR room has evolved over the past three seasons... especially now that Bryce finally has a corps with defined roles and actual upside heading into 2025. It's been a journey from stopgap veterans to a room that actually feels built for a modern NFL offense. We've come a long way from DJ Chark and TMJ. Speaking of... 2023: Inseparable WRs: Adam Thielen (slot), DJ Chark (X), Terrace Marshall Jr. (Y), Jonathan Mingo (rookie), Laviska Shenault, Ihmir Smith-Marsette What Happened: Bryce's rookie year. Thielen was productive but heavily targeted out of necessity. Chark couldn't stay healthy, and TMJ didn't break out (again). Mingo was raw and got bounced between roles. Shenault was a gadget guy. ISM was a special teams guy that eventually took Shenault's role. No clear WR1, no deep speed threat, and nothing consistent beyond Thielen. Bryce was throwing into tight windows constantly. TMJ started at Y but was inactive after Shenault returned. Mingo was drafted by Reich/Fitterer, while TMJ was a Rhule/Hurney holdover - so Mingo got more looks down the stretch as a possible possession WR2. Verdict: Ultimately, this was a group of veteran placeholders and miscast youth that had no real identity and was built for survival rather than development. 2024: The Reset WRs: Adam Thielen (slot), Diontae Johnson (X), Xavier Legette (Y, rookie), Jonathan Mingo, Jalen Coker (rookie), David Moore What Changed: New leadership brought in two guy to try and provide some juice to a group that was at the bottom of the league in separation. They traded for Diontae to play the X and up to #32 to draft XL as a long term Y with WR1 upside. Mingo backed up the slot and rotated outside before being dealt. Coker, a UDFA, started flashing early doing what was being asked of Mingo. Diontae was moved midseason after attitude issues. Mingo was dealt to Dallas with a 7th in exchange for a 2025 3rd - insane value considering Coker's emergence and what other WR trades have netted teams. Coker stepped into WR3 duties after the trades and held it down until Thielen returned from injury. XL earned praise for his toughness playing thru injury but had issues with drops that frustrated fans. Hopefully, his timing with Bryce improves in 2025. Coker filled that power slot/possession role the team hoped Mingo would grow into, and he did it with more consistency. Verdict: The room got younger and more intentional. Diontae and Mingo weren't fits (the former due to attitude, the latter due to scheme), and once they were out, you could see the group trending upward. 2025: Real ID Projected WRs: Tetairoa McMillan (X), Xavier Legette (Y), Adam Thielen (slot), Jalen Coker, Jimmy Horn Jr (rookie)., and a battle for WR6 (David Moore, Hunter Renfrow, Jacolby George) The Vision: TMac was the pick at #8 overall and finally gives Bryce a real X with size, body control, and a presence in the red zone. XL gets to stay at the Y where he is a better fit until he develops further. AT becomes the vet/mentor rather than having to be WR1 as a slot receiver in his mid-30s. Coker offers rotational size and reliability to go along with his excellent hands. Jimmy Horn Jr. brings some of the speed and agility that Diontae brought last year, but with value as a returner as well. WR6 could come down to who brings more value on ST. It wouldn't surprise me to see Renfrow stashed on the PS. Verdict: Finally feels like a WR room built for Bryce instead of just giving him a few guys and demanding that he make them a top-10 unit. It has structure... size on the outside, RAC potential, vets inside, and defined depth roles. We've still got plenty of questions waiting to be answered: Who wins the WR6 spot? Does XL take the next step in year two? Does TMac hold up to expectations for a top-8 draft pick? Is the room truly improved or does it still lack a true separator amongst them? Still.. it's pretty cool stepping back and seeing how things have evolved over the last few seasons.

If anyone is touting Tremble with his career 85 recs 782 yards 9tds, Horn who has played around 50% of his games, and BC a backup lineman as "hitting in the draft" I think that shows ones lack of understanding of what "hitting in the draft" actually is. And if that is what you come out of the draft with 11 picks then its probably a factual thing to say that this draft wasnt good. Like at all.

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Well, the good news is after 5 games, we will know whether we have a shot at the playoffs or can go ahead and pack it in. That's about as winnable of a 1st 5 games a team can get - anything worse than 3-2 should be worrisome.

A 3.3% INT rate versus a 2.9% INT rate? I would say that is pretty much right on par. Darnold averages 0.55 fumbles/GM and Fitzpatrick 0.51 fumbles/GM.

The amount of butthurt is both pathetic and hilarious.

Jennings has always been solid, he just hasn’t been someone the Niners needed to rely on heavily when they already had Kittle, Aiyuk and Deebo. He put up almost 1k yards last year, which is more than Legette and Coker combined and almost 400 yards more than Thielen…yet he wouldn’t start over any of them if he were here?