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Stewart healthy & moving well. Rivera's Party Line a Red Herring.

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updownsigma Rookie

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I just can't remember him making an impact in six games.

Oh I was the one who was confused then, I completely misinterpreted your post. I need to stop getting on the Huddle after 2 AM...

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CRA Grand Master

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The point was whether he was only the part of it that was good and that is what I took initial issue with. He is a good part of the running game although I still think he chooses to run when he could often throw a pass to a receiver who is open. And that his stats and the team rushing stats are the same as San Francisco and Seattle. Why is it that everyone are criticizing our offense yet everyone is praising the other two teams offense when they were the same as us. If they sucked, then so did we. If they were good then so were we.

But I am done here. Argued this too much for the offseason when it really doesn't matter and is past history. Nice to see you back, did you take a break or was it me??

San Fran and Sea have better traditional rush attacks.

We need Cam to help us more than there QBs to get into the ballpark they are overall

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Peppers90 NC Community Regular

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San Fran and Sea have better traditional rush attacks.

We need Cam to help us more than there QBs to get into the ballpark they are overall

Correct, while Kap had 524 yards, he also got another 1,600+ from his backfield and at the same time Russel rushed for 539, he also got an additional 1,600 plus yards from his backfield.  Cam contributed 585 yards while the rest of the backfield put up just under 1,400 yards.  Pretty big difference, Cam accounted for roughly 29-30% of total rush yards while the other two, since for some reason someone felt to compare them to, only contributed to about 25%.  Both of those teams averaged 100+ rush yards each game outside of their QB runs, us only 87.  

 

The majority of the season was filled with games where we couldnt run for anything.  Patriots game for example, our backfield only had a combined 41 yards, this against a team that had been getting gashed for consecutive weeks prior to our game by the run.  I am pretty sure we only had a 100 yard rusher once all season and that was in week 3.  We werent a great rushing team with Cam's contributions but we were a terrible rushing team if you only look at our backs.

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panthers55 Grand Master

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San Fran and Sea have better traditional rush attacks.

We need Cam to help us more than there QBs to get into the ballpark they are overall

I said I was done so I won't keep bringing up the same things but for the life of me if a traditional rushing attack means everyone but Cam Ie. traditional running backs and since  Kaep, Cam and Wilson all were between 500 and 600 yards total rushing and the rest of the team finished up within 100 yards of each other in total rushing, how one is better than the other.   While you can argue that Gore and Lynch got the yards themselves and we shared them between Williams and Tolbert, they are still part of the traditional rushing attack which was virtually identical to one another.  Even number of carries were almost identical.  Truth is that if any of the three of the quarterbacks had more rushes in fewer carries and was a bigger part of the rushing offense it would be Kaepernick instead of Newton.  But I digress and won't go on ad nauseum.

I just think this is a case where group speak and general perception on this site is actually  wrong and that most folks outside of this site think our rushing game is much better than folk here do.  But it is not going to change people's minds here so I won't waste my time any more.

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Peppers90 NC Community Regular

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That's a relief, not many people would say that 1,400 yards is a good rushing attack.  But because Cam added an additional 585, that actually made the rush game somewhat worthy.  You argued from what a couple of us said at the beginning, only from our observations that the run game struggled.  You said that stats would say otherwise, but I guess we dont agree what is good or what isn't, that is a matter of opinion.  Ultimately, you believe 1,400 yards from the backfield is sufficient, while most of us believe it is not.

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Of course!

But you have to be a tried-and-true Southerner to appreciate boiled okra probably! :P

Eww. Not a fan of boiled anything. I'll stick with the fried-to-a-crisp variety.

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thefuzz Mentor

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Again I am sure you have a point somewhere I just can't figure what it is...............................  Haivng a 1000 yard back versus 1 that gets 800 yards and another than gets 300 makes no difference.  And 10 yards a game doesn't make a difference in and of itself.  Now if that extra 10 yards accounted for 2 TDs in the redzone then it does matter.  But that is quality versus quantity which has been debated ad nauseum.

 

This is where you are very very wrong, although it's a completely different topic.

 

 

The Seahawks got 1,257 yards and 12 TD's for roughly 8.5 million against the cap from Lynch.

 

The Panthers got 1,384 yards and 8 TD's for roughly 12.35 million against the cap from their top 3 RB's.

 

 

Seahawks will have 7 million this year against the cap with Lynch.

 

Panthers will have 13.9 against the cap with their top 3.

 

Let's also don't forget that we are taking up two more roster spots.

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