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Question for couch coordinators...

Towelboy

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Is there an offensive philosophy that works with our current roster? We do not appear to be signing new offensive weapons, so what can we do with the roster we have?  

 

What would you do? Overload one side and have Cam roll the other way? No-huddle hurry-up? Quick outs and drag routes? If you were given this roster, what kind of play calling are you installing in your base offense?

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Is there an offensive philosophy that works with our current roster? We do not appear to be signing new offensive weapons, so what can we do with the roster we have?  

 

What would you do? Overload one side and have Cam roll the other way? No-huddle hurry-up? Quick outs and drag routes? If you were given this roster, what kind of play calling are you installing in your base offense?

 

 

You are asking for two different things.

 

 

We are set up to run a Coryell, that's what we will need to continue to run.  The issue is we have too much money tied up in RB's (stupid all the time) and not enough in the O Line (stupid almost all the time).  

 

 

Coryell is based on a power running game, and we don't have the ability to have one right now.

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I'm going to be honest, I had to look up the Coryell Offense. According to wikipedia:

"Overall the goal of the Coryell offense is to have at least two downfield, fast wide receivers who adjust to the deep pass very well, combined with a sturdy pocket quarterback with a strong arm. The Coryell offense uses three key weapons. The first is a strong inside running game, the second is its ability to strike deep with two or more receivers on any play, and the third is to not only use those two attacks in cooperation with each other, but to include a great deal of mid-range passing to a TE, WR, or back."

If that is the case, it isn't just our poor protection and running game, but lack of FAST WRs that is holding us back also.

 

If we can't establish the run, what would you do to move the ball? Allow Cam to do it all? 

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I'm going to be honest, I had to look up the Coryell Offense. According to wikipedia:

"Overall the goal of the Coryell offense is to have at least two downfield, fast wide receivers who adjust to the deep pass very well, combined with a sturdy pocket quarterback with a strong arm. The Coryell offense uses three key weapons. The first is a strong inside running game, the second is its ability to strike deep with two or more receivers on any play, and the third is to not only use those two attacks in cooperation with each other, but to include a great deal of mid-range passing to a TE, WR, or back."

If that is the case, it isn't just our poor protection and running game, but lack of FAST WRs that is holding us back also.

 

If we can't establish the run, what would you do to move the ball? Allow Cam to do it all? 

 

Well the only problem there is that we have A.) No run game and B.) Not even one fast receiver

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Yeah, we're nowhere near having an offensive identity other than "hope Cam bails us out on 3rd and long".

If I'm installing a new offense, I'd go for a zone stretch offense. Let the offensive linemen block down instead of trying to manhandle their opponent, and give Cam space to make plays out of the bootleg.

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no runs up the middle on first down, our backs are more off tackle types.  more swing passes if the defense is playing off.  but none of that matters if the players fail to execute.  i think there have been some good play designs the last couple of years, but the fact of the matter is the line sucks.

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Not a flea-flicker to the slowest WR in the NFL.

 

The read option is very important. Designed runs for Cam. We're limited in what we can do due to a lack of offensive talent. I would lean on Cam, but that's going to put him at increased risk on injury.

 

 

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I think that we already went into depth with this topic a few weeks ago. I want us to run the Air Coryell, because I think it would best fit Cam. However, obviously we lack an O-line. That's the thing, you really can't run any offensive system because we have the worst O-line in the NFL. You can't run smash mouth, you can't run a vertical offense, you can't run a coryell offense, etc.

 

That's another thing though. We don't have an identity on offense so we can't build on anything and get better at a system. Shula tries to throw in a little bit of everything and it doesn't work that way. We need a definite offensive system that we can build around so our players can get familiar with it. But, it doesn't really matter anyway if our defense keeps allowing 37+ points. It's all a mess man.

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Is there an offensive philosophy that works with our current roster? We do not appear to be signing new offensive weapons, so what can we do with the roster we have?

What would you do? Overload one side and have Cam roll the other way? No-huddle hurry-up? Quick outs and drag routes? If you were given this roster, what kind of play calling are you installing in your base offense?

Only two things works. Elite D. More elite than ours last season paired with our current O or

It is called....Cam save us and try to be a one man wrecking crew. This also requires prayer too.

There is no magic formula where you add bad OL play, no traditional rush attack, and no WRs to stretch the field that = successful offense.

Cam dropping back every play and pulling off magic is our only shot if our D is gonna be giving up 30

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