Wilson completes 10 passes and Seattle still scores 38 points

[Beast_3000]

True but a Qbs number one job is always gonna be to throw the ball, you dont want your QB running for 100 yards just to win games. Also would you want to pay a QB 20 million a season just for being a great runner? Especially if they could be one leg injury away from being a liability completely.

I think analyst and fans of stationary quarterbacks use that as an excuse How can it be a problem if you can do both? He has to continue to develop as a passer. Long term I agree. You don't want your quarterback to run all the time but if the field is wide open, why not take it? It is a very high percentage play that kills the morale of a defense. In my opinion Russell doesn't have that many passing weapons so he has to compensate. He does an excellent job of not getting hit also.

[cookinbrak]

Aaron Rodgers only completed 18. How do these teams expect to win?

[KendrickPanther]

Lynch was running through holes so big you could have fit 4 running backs. Nobody made contact until he reached the secondary and you can imagine how that went. But this thread isn't about Wilson, Lynch, the Seahawks, or even Carrol. This thread is just more sulking because Cam Newton is perceived to have no talent around him.

 

I'm not saying the premise is false. It's just rehashed and pointless. Are we going to make one of these threads every time a team wins? 7 or so winning teams a week. Do we need to make a thread about how each one of them won with better personnel than Cam? It gets old.

[Davidson Deac II]

I'm not saying the premise is false. It's just rehashed and pointless.

 

A lot of threads here are rehashed.  Its the nature of the beast. 

[Jangler]

bad seasons really bring out the haters of Cam....don't they.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

seattle's offense is built around marshawn lynch. wilson is just another weapon to be used if necessary.

[nctarheel0619]

As Barry Sanders just recently said, Beast Mode is the best RB in the league to build an offense around. Seattle has a top 5 interior o-line and the best RB in the league, Wilson's merely a pawn in their offense. 

 

I was having a conversation about RW and Kap with a Bills and Jets fan yesterday in Raleigh.  They both looked at me and said they would take Cam over those two in a heartbeat.  They said Cam knows how to run an offense while those two just have a manage the games with their stacked teams.  It felt good hearing that from outsiders for a change.  

[Udogg]

There will always be questions.    Just as Marino/Elway discussions.  Just as the Montana/Peyton discussions.   Nature of the beast.  Even Cam's most ardent supporters sometimes have doubts.  Anyone can take an argument and use "facts" to support it.  For instance, there are still Brady > Manning discussions.

 

Cam will be lumped in with Luck/RG3/Kaep/Wilson.. forever.   Just accept it.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Not trying to blame Cam for our struggles, but Wilson had over 100 yards on the ground.  Cam has struggled the last couple weeks, but so has our whole team. 

 

Are you saying "All Wilson can do is run the ball," since that's what most would be saying about Cam if he had a similar game?

 

If that's not what you're doing, then you don't really have a point.

[t96]

I was having a conversation about RW and Kap with a Bills and Jets fan yesterday in Raleigh.  They both looked at me and said they would take Cam over those two in a heartbeat.  They said Cam knows how to run an offense while those two just have a manage the games with their stacked teams.  It felt good hearing that from outsiders for a change.  

That's surprising to hear that from non-Panthers fans, and it's true. Cam has run the offense, been the leader of the offense, and the centerpiece of the offense. Kaepernick and Wilson have not. Admittedly, Luck has, Griffin has and Tannehill has, though not as successful as Cam except maybe Luck. And look at Luck's line and WRs compared to Cam's. Hard to compare their play with such a discrepancy between the sets of weapons.

[rmoneyg35]

Stewart has been running strong the last few games. Well over 5 yards a carry against Seattle and New Orleans combined. Can't blame him for the offensive struggles.

I do believe that JStew could have a lot more yards but he needs more carries and when your team is down as much as we are it's hard for Stewart to get carries since we are passing just about every play.

I also think a better offensive line will help any of our running backs. I do think our run game has improved since Amini hasn't played.

[Semaj]

Sarcasm on.  "Yeah he is definitely better than Cam.  I mean he won the Super Bowl!  Based upon that Super Bowl win, he has got to be better than Scam.  He played at NC State and we shoulda drafted him."  Sarcasm off.

 

Now on the serious side, see what a dominant O-line can do. Lets get it fixed Mr. Gettleman.   

[mav1234]

Are you saying "All Wilson can do is run the ball," since that's what most would be saying about Cam if he had a similar game?

 

If that's not what you're doing, then you don't really have a point.

 

Uhh, no, what I'm saying is that while Wilson struggled throwing the ball, he was racking up yards on the ground and his team was excelling in doing the same.  Our team has struggled the last few weeks on offensive entirely, so a comparison to Cam here is really rather moot. If Cam had a 100 yard game on the ground while our RBs had 4 TDs, none of us would care if he was 10/17/.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Uhh, no, what I'm saying is that while Wilson struggled throwing the ball, he was racking up yards on the ground and his team was excelling in doing the same.  Our team has struggled the last few weeks on offensive entirely, so a comparison to Cam here is really rather moot. If Cam had a 100 yard game on the ground while our RBs had 4 TDs, none of us would care if he was 10/17/.

 

IT'S CALLED SARCASM.

 

The point is, it's fine if Wilson "found a way" to help his team win by running the ball. Doesn't matter. If Cam Newton had done the same thing, he would've been ripped by the likes of Trent Dilfer, Peter King or Greg Cosell as running way too much and being a running back playing QB.

 

The comparison to Cam Newton was INHERENT in your remarks. It was implied. The fact is, the standards for Cam are different than they are for other QBs. No one doubted Dalton after throwing for 86 yards. Many "of us" and the media doubt Cam Newton when he throws for 250.