NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been disciplined yet

[KillerKat]

Roger Goodell is so full of fuging poo. Worst commissioner ever. I would not shed a tear if he were assassinated.

[csx]

Yes if a woman who is TRULY BEATEN calls the police, the man should be arrested. But that's not the case. The cops there found nothing to indicate that Hardy hit her, and didn't even arrest him when they arrived. And HARDY HIMSELF called the police, not her. If there's not evidence of a crime being committed, then why in the fuging world should somebody be arrested?

In the case of real abuse how can a thorough investigation be carried out immediately? Its a tradeoff that gives real victims some protection and allows them to report the abuser without fear of reprocussions. Its not perfect but that is the reasoning for the tradeoff.

[t96]

In the case of real abuse how can a thorough investigation be carried out immediately? Its a tradeoff that gives real victims some protection and allows them to report the abuser without fear of reprocussions. Its not perfect but that is the reasoning for the tradeoff.

 

There would need to be some evidence of abuse. There wasn't in Hardy's case, otherwise the cops on the scene would've arrested him.

[csx]

There would need to be some evidence of abuse. There wasn't in Hardy's case, otherwise the cops on the scene would've arrested him.

You have seen Cops right? They always say "someone is going to jail here" This doesnt equate exactly but there is reason for it. Im not saying the process doesnt have flaws.

[Mr. Scot]

What i said in the other thread...

 

Here's the thing you have to keep in mind here...

 

Bill Cosby once joked that when it came to arbitration between two kids, parents aren't interested in justice.  They want quiet.

 

That applies to the NFL right now too. 

 

They're a lot less interested in what's fair and just punishment for guys like Rice, Hardy and Peterson than they are what will most keep their image problems out of the headlines.

 

Another two game suspension will bring to people's memories the previous two game suspension, and the uproar surrounding it.

 

Hence, I won't be surprised if we see them fight for their right to suspend Hardy longer (maybe four games).

 

They may ultimately lose, but to paraphrase the old saying, there's nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal, except maybe a lawyer who's trying to cover his ass.

 

Knew the NFL wouldn't just say "ahhhh, okay".

[TheRumGone]

Wow. So doing something that's not criminal at all, means he should've been arrested? Do you also think girls that dress skimpy should get raped and that anyone who thinks they shouldn't get raped is "childish and not facing reality?"

Mmmkay child I'm done

[Anybodyhome]

Greg Hardy won't be reinstated simply because the NFL has been embarrassed in court twice now since the Rice and Peterson rulings and they will keep Hardy on the Exempt List for 3 more years of they have to just to prove a point.

 

Legalities, due process, fair play all went out the window the minute the owners gave the commissioner the power to be judge, jury and executioner.

[SmokinwithWilly]

"Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players."

 

I'm thinking it might be time for Goodell to suspend himself.

[t96]

Mmmkay child I'm done

 

Resorting to calling me a child, I see. Interesting.

[WhoAmI?]

After the witchhunt from the media and NFL, they are just too embarrassed to let this go without some sort of punishment. They thought FOR SURE that Hardy was going to be found guilty.

 

And for the people saying that last year wasn't punishment are just ridiculous. First of all, by sitting out the year, he missed out on bonuses, playoff pay, and a potential future contract. If you don't think he is going to get less money from all this, then you are stupid. Secondly, his physical condition probably took a hit from the one year layoff. That ready-to-play conditioning goes down the toilet. Thirdly, it has just ruined his repuation as not only a player, but a person. Yeah, that is punishment for someone who wasn't found guilty. All this over a little misdeamenor.

[SmokinwithWilly]

After the witchhunt from the media and NFL, they are just too embarrassed to let this go without some sort of punishment. They thought FOR SURE that Hardy was going to be found guilty.

Honestly though, who didn't see this coming a mile away. Of all 3 cases, Hardy wouldn't have been the one I would have put my money on for a guilty verdict. 

[CelibatePimp]

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=21598&src=desktopSTANDARD OF CONDUCT

While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. Discipline may be imposed in any of the following circumstances:

Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving:

The use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering;

Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse;

Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace;

Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes,

buses, parking lots, etc., or unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace;

Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; and

Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.

 

So the NFL has proof he broke which of these?

[SmokinwithWilly]

They are using "Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players."

 

Completely open to interpretation.  

[t96]

Honestly though, who didn't see this coming a mile away. Of all 3 cases, Hardy wouldn't have been the one I would have put my money on for a guilty verdict. 

 

Hardy was the only one who didn't admit guilt. People believed he'd be guilty because the media reported in every Hardy story that he was found guilty and then appealed. But they never clarify how NC law works to show that the original guilty verdict was a technicality. If Goodell actually thought he would be guilty, then he was way stupider than I thought someone making his kind of money would be.