Cowboys in negotiations with Greg Hardy?

[CatMan72]

Damn, I want him in the AFC.

[Mojo]

Some of y'all are acting like Greg Hardy is the second coming of Reggie White or Bruce Smith. He had one great year, and he was playing for a contract on the #14 scoring defense in NFL history. Outside of 2013 he has been average at best, and always doing stupid crap off the field. Investing long-term in that type of personality is stupid.

If the Nicole Holder DV case was against Davis, Johnson, Kalil, etc I'd give them the benefit of the doubt because they are model citizens off the field. But with Hardy's past incidents I would not. And regardless, even if he was completely innocent on that night he is still a freaking idiot for putting himself in that situation. He had just signed at $13m 1-year deal and was primed to get a massive contract the next summer. Yet his judgement, or lack thereof, had him out partying and drinking excessively and dating a mentally unstable woman who abuses hard drugs and alcohol.

Signing Greg Hardy long-term is a terrible idea and something a stupid team like the Cowboys would do. The Panthers have been more successful than the Cowboys over the past 15-20 years. Jerry Jones is a terrible GM.

Going forward we have to pay Newton, Kuechly, Lotulelei, Benjamin, etc. and we cannot afford to keep Hardy and Johnson. Going forward I'll take a 29-year-old Johnson over a 27-year-old Hardy any day of the week. That's right, Johnson is only 2 years older than Hardy. Johnson is a much better player and has been a complete, elite DE for many years. And he's a model citizen off the field.

You can't keep every great player that's gonna get paid. That's what Hurney did and it ruined the franchise. You have to let guys go. New England just let the best CB in the game walk away.

And if there's one player you have to let go, it's Greg Hardy. We have a great DL without him and he's immature. Even if he stays out of trouble and dominates elsewhere, moving on is the right move.

Then again, I don't know why I typed all that. The ones upset over Hardy leaving are probably the same ones mad we aren't paying a 36/37 year old Steve Smith $25m over the next 2 seasons.

 

Most people I see here are okay with letting him walk.

 

I just don't want him to go to Seattle.  That should be understandable.

 

As far as past incidents go, prior to this ordeal Hardy I don't remember Hardy being in trouble with the law.  You're free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Drinking and partying don't count, either.

[MHS831]

Funny how Hardy is totally innocent because we have no first hand knowledge (except the findings of a judge) but, without any firsthand knowledge of Holder, we can safely and accurately accuse her of being a coke addict, committing perjury, and extorting millions from an innocent victim afraid of soiling his good name.

 

Dolts.

[jtm]

Greg Hardy was projected as a potential future #1 overall pick in the NFL Draft after his Sophomore year at Ole Miss. He fell all the way to the 6th Rd in one year because of his off the field issues.

While in Charlotte he was constantly doing stupid, immature things; driving like an idiot and wrecking a motorcycle, driving 120mph in a car, going out and drinking excessively, dating a coke addict, etc.

You don't have to commit felonies to be an idiot and immature.

Well said and some people just don't get it. I'd love to keep Hardy, but I'd never make him a franchise player.

[WOW!!]

Funny how Hardy is totally innocent because we have no first hand knowledge (except the findings of a judge) but, without any firsthand knowledge of Holder, we can safely and accurately accuse her of being a coke addict, committing perjury, and extorting millions from an innocent victim afraid of soiling his good name.

Dolts.

She admitted to it on the stand..

She actually used it as a reason she didn't report the 30 guns and not going to the hospital at the scene. .

[WOW!!]

The fact the he was dating a confirmed coke head tells you Greg is an idiot and severely lacks judgement.

Greg might be an elite football player. Hell, he might even be a nice guy. But he's immature and constantly makes poor decisions.

Oh I forgot no one ever makes a mistake when dating. .

You do know women don't come with a stamp saying..

"I'm a coke head"

"I like to slash tires and break windows"

"I have 4 baby daddies"

"I worship the Sumerian God of death"

"I cut myself when I see oranges"

"My dad use to rape me with a Garfield mask on"

"I make and sleep with pillows in the likeness of ex boyfriends"

[NYPantherFan]

Greg Hardy | FA

(March 16, 2015 3:03 PM EDT)

Yahoo's Charles Robinson reports there's "nothing imminent" between the Cowboys and free agent Greg Hardy.

However, the Cowboys appear to very much be looking into the ex-Panther. NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini reports the Cowboys have "talked to Hardy's old coaches to learn more about his character," and have so far "(liked) what they've (heard)." The Cowboys need a pass rusher to pair with second-year pro Demarcus Lawrence, and Hardy would offer mammoth upside at what should be a discount price.

SOURCE: 

CHARLES ROBINSON ON TWITTER

[MadHatter]

Actually, if you have any proof Hardy paid her off, the DA would love to have it because he's been looking and cannot find enough to charge him with witness tampering, either. This comes after not having enough to continue the case.

So while all the Hardy-hating keyboard lawyers out there are convinced of his guilt, please try to remember the judicial system in Charlotte has nothing. It may not mean he's innocent, but it does mean he hasn't been found guilty, and the end result is the same- he's a free man.

He settled with her and she miraculously decided to disappear and not cooperate with the DA.

And, it would be impossible for the DA to bring witness tampering without either Holder testifying to that or a written agreement stating the conditions of the payments. Neither are likely to exist.

I am not saying he was guilty...just that him paying and her going away does not make him innocent.

[NYPantherFan]

Greg Hardy | FA

(March 16, 2015 3:03 PM EDT)

Yahoo's Charles Robinson reports there's "nothing imminent" between the Cowboys and free agent Greg Hardy.

However, the Cowboys appear to very much be looking into the ex-Panther. NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini reports the Cowboys have "talked to Hardy's old coaches to learn more about his character," and have so far "(liked) what they've (heard)." The Cowboys need a pass rusher to pair with second-year pro Demarcus Lawrence, and Hardy would offer mammoth upside at what should be a discount price.

SOURCE:

CHARLES ROBINSON ON TWITTER

I found the part about the Cowboys asking old coaches about Hardys character and "coming away liking what they hear" pretty interesting.. Now it doesn't say Panthers coaches but you would assume that is who they reached out to. More proof it's JR/Gettleman not wanting him back than the coaches and team.

[Mr. Scot]

My first question on any of these stories generally is 'How much of that information came from Drew Rosenhaus?'

[ctrcat]

Get a d@mn grip folks. I'll miss him but he wasn't coming back this year regardless, and he very well may not be worth the risk. I know he practically lived at the Ballantyne Hotel this fall throwing away money like a drunken sailor, and that's what little I know. He's got a screw lose and we'll spend his money on other quality players.

The Seahawks absolutely nailed the 2010-2012 drafts...before we hired GMan. What were THEIR fans saying when they went 7-9 and 3rd in the West in 2011? As good as Wilson and Wagner are no way in hades I'd trade for Cam and Luke. KB, Star, KK, Kony, Trai, Bene, et al are all young studs they'd die to have. RIGHT NOW we're right on their heels and may just knock the door down in a big way this year. Next year however after two more GMan drafts and $70 million in cap space, I guarand@mntee we will.

[jumpman910]

For the love of Christ these "past incidents" people keep making up kill me.

Exactly, this poo seems petty to bring up. Like really are you really stuck on that poo

[jumpman910]

Exactly, this poo seems petty to bring up. Like are you really stuck on that poo

[Montsta]

I wouldn't say he was average at best. He had 3 sacks as a rookie without starting. 4 the next year. Then 11. Then 15. He's in his prime and could have had 16+ this year.