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NFL.com: top 5 rookie QB seasons...guess who's missing?


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So I really try to not buy too much into the whole "the media hates Cam!" thing, but wow, Cam isn't even a "tough omission." Apparently the writer gives a lot more weight to total wins than overall stats, so he has guys like Roethlisberger at 2.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000485735/article/top-rookie-seasons-of-the-super-bowl-era-quarterbacks?campaign=Facebook_writers_harrison

 

/useless offseason thread

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I mean, at the time, people were widely calling Cam's rookie season arguably the greatest of all time.

 

Of course, it gets diminished because of Dalton, Luck, Wilson, and Tannehill, as well as Cam's 'lack of progress'.

 

No big deal though. If Cam can solidify himself amongst the elite within the next few years, then his rookie season will be far and wide regarded as one of, if not the best of all time. It was the start of a new era of young, mobile QBs.

 

He'll be regarded as a revolutionist and be a first ballot Hall of Famer if he can enter the realm of and persist as an elite QB.

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The only shocking part was that Luck wasn't on the list. Everyone knew Cam wouldn't be...

 

But Dan was #1. I remember towards the end of Cam's rookie season quite a few people said that is was the greatest Rookie season since Dan and may even be better. They knock Cam cause he didn't win I guess and put Russell at 3 because he did, which is meh... so did Matt Ryan.

Everyone here knows the records Cam broke. It took the combo of RG3 and Luck to break those records (RG3 running, barely, and Luck with 100+ attempts more than Cam on a better team than Cam with far inferior opponents)

 

Sometimes I feel like I'm the crazy one thinking the media does Cam/Carolina wrong. My buddy tells me I'm crazy... then poo like this gets published.  

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It's pretty ridiculous he didn't make the top five. Kudos for at least mentioning his name I guess...

But seriously, QBs can't win games by themselves. It's so unfair that Wilson makes this list because he was on a winning (more talented) team. The list means nothing, I'm just sick of his individual achievements being overlooked because of the team that surrounded him. So many things you could say to make an argument for him, but let's just add guys who were on good teams. Perfect...

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