McGinn's writeup on Shaq

[Proudiddy]

Really? You're going to cite ESPN as a legitimate source? ESPN? The place where Mel Kiper went on a massive rant when we took Cam Newton because we already had Jimmy Clausen? That network? Where Skip Bayless works? ESPN? Yeah I'll take that opinion seriously. I also think the Hornets are going to win a championship next year and the Saints will win the South for the next 10 years.

They're not the only ones saying it. I just thought that write-up reflected my opinion of the pick also...

[rmoneyg35]

I didn't know about him drawing a bunch of 15 yard penalties, he has to cut that out here. I also didn't know that Coaches wanted him gone which does bother me but then again I believe in Gettleman and I am 100% sure he did plenty of research on the situation and if Gettleman still believed him to be a 1st round pick then there must not be much wrong.

[L-TownCat]

Ron liteally said we draft Shaq to cover guys like Graham so

Right so that makes him better than TD already?

Sounds legit.

[Snake]

Fixed.

Dude we get it you don't like the pick. How about give out a rest because you have 10 years to bitch about how he.could have been better.

[jasonluckydog]

How can this many folks be upset? Dude hasn't played a down yet, he could win RDPY or be a bust. I will take the wait and see approach before commenting he's a Panther now.

[Proudiddy]

Dude we get it you don't like the pick. How about give out a rest because you have 10 years to bitch about how he.could have been better.

I hadn't posted for two hours. Why does it bother you that not everyone wants to give gettleman a backrub for every single move he makes?

I never said Thompson won't be good. I don't like the pick. In my mind, even if he comes out and kills it from start to finish, I still won't be a fan of the pick because a guy we actually needed (not wanted) was taken 4 spots later.

I'm honestly tired of talking about it myself... And that's because he has severely neglected WR in both FA and the draft for two years. Great, he got us KB... He also got us Cotchery, Avant, Demario Presley (lol), Bersin (lol), Underwood ( lol), and Boykin (lol). I purposely left Philly off the list because he actually has a viable chance of being an NFL player. That is not addressing WR. For a man renowned for all of his experience and football knowledge, how the f*CK can you possibly sign that list of guys and believe it when you tell people it'll work? You signed career slot guys and #4s and tell people you can just plug them in and they'll work like anyone else, lol. It is mind-blowingly dumb.

When we signed Cotch and Avant, I told everyone that espoused all the great things about them and cited cotch's 10 tds in the season before, that they were great in the appropriate role... Which is as situational guys out of the slot as a 3 or 4. It is not acceptable. It's like taking a guy's Lamborghini and then coming back and giving him a Pinto and saying, "don't worry, it drives, it'll do the same thing."

Look, I'll say this to everyone who seems to take it personal anytime someone doesn't agree with gettleman or his moves... Do you think I enjoy bitching and moaning about WR? Do you all personally think I can't wait to get on here and rain on your non-stop high-five parade? You think it's because I know you love gettleman and I apparently he hate him, so I can't wait to come troll you guys? Lol... No, man...

I've been here since 2004,and I'll be here until I leave this Earth old and grey - if we're not all communicating through a cloud or some poo by then lol. I'm a Panthers fan for better or worse. I'm bitching because I want what's best for my team, and imo, ignoring WR is a fatal flaw on a team that's very close to being a contender. I don't hate gettleman. I've hated some of the moves he's made, but I've also praised many he's made. Believe me, if he drafts 3 WRs through tonight and the weekend, I will be in complete chill mode. Now, if those WRs suck when the regular season comes around, then I'll point out that we should've signed a vet WR for reinforcement, but odds are, we will hit on at least one if we took three. That's all I'm asking... Address the position with speed and skill... Not that aforementioned pinto. We don't need a lambo, but at least give us a viper lol, and maybe some challengers and mustangs.

I promise you, I don't enjoy complaining. I'm only complaining because this is a board we share as fans of the same team, and these are my concerns that I feel hold our team back. If gettleman addresses WR thoroughly, I feel our team will be complete going into the season... Any changes needed from there would be extremely minor and easily fixable.

[heel31ok]

You don't draft for need.

 

You draft to get better.

 

Shaq makes us better.

 

technically filling a need makes you better.

 

[CarolinaSock]

Why do so many people act like it's just automatic if you want to trade back? It takes two teams for a trade to happen.

[CelticCat]

Wasn't Archuleta that workout warrior that got a tad over drafted and fizzled out?

 

I see more Derrick Brooks than Archuleta in Shaq myself.

 

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Lets see if I can do this right......

 

so, is it "Hack A Shaq" or

           "Shaq's A Hack?"

[mbarbour21]

Wasn't Archuleta that workout warrior that got a tad over drafted and fizzled out?

I see more Derrick Brooks than Archuleta in Shaq myself.

Nah......I think it was that guy Smitty blew past for the winning TD in over-time in the 2003 playoff game. Hehe!

[Pazhoosier89]

Thompson compared himself to Lavonte David. If he is we're in pretty good shape at LB.

[asknoquarter]

Shaq and Archuleta aren't in the same world.  Landon Collins is a better comparison to Archuleta.  I think there is some risk to Shaq, but he also had a higher ceiling than almost everyone that was available at #25. 

 

Archuleta was a liability on the field, teams tried to find him.  Shaq is the opposite, he is the guy who makes plays and being around guys like Keek, TD, Peanut.  This kid will be on the field.  I think he allows us to play a formation resembling a 4-2-5 on 1st and 2nd downs and a 3-3-5 Dime formation on third and long, no team in the NFL sans maybe Seattle has the kind of speed as we do now on defense. 

 

Had we taken a top athlete for offense I would be slightly worried that Shula wouldn't be able to get the most out of him.  On defense, I am not so worried.

[MadHatter]

No. We couldn't have

 

There was two trades in the first round. Two.

 

 

No body was going to want to trade up. 

 

Exactly.

 

It was like all the scouts were saying....outside the Top 15 picks, the difference between 16 and 50 was basically nil.  If that is true, how can picking any of them at any position between 16 and 50 be called a reach.

 

The chatter is nothing but Mayock and Kiper trying to prove that they were right about where they mocked players.  Even though they are wrong more than they are right.

 

They are like damn weathermen.......good at your job if you are even close to 50% accurate.