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Brady's Suspension?


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Tom Brady's Suspension Is?  

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  1. 1. 4 games for Brady in deflate gate....

    • 4 games...caught with a joint and you get 4 games...4 isn't enough
      41
    • Are you kidding me, there's no proof, 4 is way too many
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    • 4 is about right
      54
    • Fug the Patriots, I'm sick of hearing about Brady's balls
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I think 4 is perfectly fine. I thought taking away a 1st rounder when Belichick and the organization were found to not be involved in any way to be excessive, but I'm not going to complain. If they don't deserve it for this I'm sure there is something they do deserve it for that we just don't know about. Plus all of our picks next year will be one slot higher which is nice.

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If Brady and the organization he is employed with wasn't so (typically of them) arrogant as to try and institute a cover up and bad-mouth the league while banging the "woe is us" drum then it wouldn't have been nearly as bad. They're lucky it wasn't worse.

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Honestly, if the Pats and their fans have a legitimate beef, it's that the organization got hit too hard.  All indications were that Brady and a couple of low level equipment guys were the extent of the involvement in this whole deal.  It really feels like the Pats got hit because of their history, which IMO is still legit reasoning.  However, if you're going to argue that the Pats got hit too hard as an organization, then Brady got off too light.  If you're going to let the organization as a whole off the hook, then Brady should've gotten hit with a half a season suspension.  Honestly, hitting Brady with 8 games and taking mid-round pick from the Pats would've seemed like a more fair solution given the information available IMO.  But, given the fact that Brady is in his late 30s and the Pats have to strike while the iron is hot, I'm sure having Brady for 12 games is worth losing that 1st rounder in their minds.

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Honestly, if the Pats and their fans have a legitimate beef, it's that the organization got hit too hard.  All indications were that Brady and a couple of low level equipment guys were the extent of the involvement in this whole deal.  It really feels like the Pats got hit because of their history, which IMO is still legit reasoning.  However, if you're going to argue that the Pats got hit too hard as an organization, then Brady got off too light.  If you're going to let the organization as a whole off the hook, then Brady should've gotten hit with a half a season suspension.  Honestly, hitting Brady with 8 games and taking mid-round pick from the Pats would've seemed like a more fair solution given the information available IMO.  But, given the fact that Brady is in his late 30s and the Pats have to strike while the iron is hot, I'm sure having Brady for 12 games is worth losing that 1st rounder in their minds.

 

Florio actually had a good point on this, though.

 

Remember when "ignorance was no excuse" with the Saints and Sean Payton?

 

If that's the standard, how does Belichick come out of this unscathed?

 

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Honestly, if the Pats and their fans have a legitimate beef, it's that the organization got hit too hard. All indications were that Brady and a couple of low level equipment guys were the extent of the involvement in this whole deal. It really feels like the Pats got hit because of their history, which IMO is still legit reasoning. However, if you're going to argue that the Pats got hit too hard as an organization, then Brady got off too light. If you're going to let the organization as a whole off the hook, then Brady should've gotten hit with a half a season suspension. Honestly, hitting Brady with 8 games and taking mid-round pick from the Pats would've seemed like a more fair solution given the information available IMO.

When multiple members of your organization cheat, then the organization is cheating. Anyone who has ever played sports or been in the military or a part of literally any team based endeavor in their entire life is familiar with this concept. The organization then proceeded to make it worse by not just playing dumb, but going on the offensive and demanding apologies and trying to insult the league.

They ARE being punished even more severely because they are repeat offenders. That was within the statement released from the league. It isn't just "a feeling" it's fact.

So you have cheating, you have a cover-up, you have trashing the league in an attempt to build yourself up, and then there is matter that they clearly didn't learn their lesson the first time. As I said before, they are really, really fortunate that both Brady and the organization as a whole did not get worse.

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