more of what the Hawks fans are saying

[Captain Morgan]

http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=115738

 

We heard it from every other fanbase jealous of our young hungry elite D for three years. "Just you wait, when those players start getting paid, you're going to have problems. The desire will wane, players will get content."

Not us! we said, this D is different. This D is one of the greatest of all time!

Well...................they're right. It's now official. Our D is soft. I do not see the same crazy pack of wild dog energy and hunger out of our core players. There are some exceptions, mainly on the D line. I still see energy from guys like Bennett and Avril.

But the LOB? Nope, soft as hell, especially Sherman. $$$ and babies have made him soft. Earl? Looks confused half the time. Kam? Still hits hard, but got TORCHED yesterday. Bobby? KJ? OK, but not playing anywhere near their 2012/2103 form.

 

 

While I do agree this defense is not what it once was, let's not forget they were amazing the last 2 games (Chi/Det), and then for 3 quarters yesterday on the road against one of the best offenses in the NFL. Once again the offense hung the defense out to dry yesterday with zero production in the 4th quarter and OT.

Unfortunately after going to back to back Super Bowls and most of these guys getting paid, they probably will never be as dominant and frenzied as they were when they were trying to climb the mountain. Hope I'm wrong.

 

 

on Wilson:

We are stating to really see his limitations. The middle of the field appears to be all but inaccessible to him in the short passing game. He just cant see I guess

and

I know there is a lot of hate for Russ on this board. With this said I truly believe Russ has been overwhelmed with the lack of consistent support on the OL. When he first came up I'm sure he had a lot more confidence in the OL. Now from one snap to the next he just doesn't have any consistent protection and thus he has somewhat regressed as a passer as the gameplan as drawn up is thrown out the window. With the losses the OL has sustained it's understandable but starting this offseason they really need to stop with the projects and find good (great not needed) lineman that have SOME experience especially at the NFL level playing the position. Once Russ gets comfortable that he'll have consistent protection again he will again ascend to the top of the heap of QB's. Until then expect some of the same.

 

 

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Wilson has been overrated for awhile, but it's definitely true he's not getting helped out by his OL this season.

[jayflip]

I hate them and I hate their fans. That bandwagon is on the verge of breaking down. 

Keep pounding... that Seattle bootyhole. 

[TheRed]

Wilson has been sacked 22 times through 5 games so far.

Maybe trading away their best offensive lineman for a TE who doesn't block wasn't such a hot idea.

[Newtcase]

For all of the chaotic ballet happening on a NFL field, consistent winning really does boil down to the trenches.  The toughest things to build and sustain in the NFL are above average OL/DL.  Teams may be able to scheme or mask deficiencies with superior talent at other positions but it isn't a recipe for sustained success..... unless you have Aaron Rodgers, that dude's ability to mask a shoddy OL is unreal.

This year Cam has gotten the best protection of his career and he's a legit MVP candidate.

[332nd]

Heh... Remember when Wilson, Luck, & Kaepernick were fantastic young QBs that willed their teams ti victory, while Cam was a bust that Panther fans kept trying to cover for by blaming the O-line?

[shreddingdefense]

Wilson has been overrated for awhile, but it's definitely true he's not getting helped out by his OL this season.

They do alot of holding when he is scrambling though, never gets called.

[Captain Morgan]

Wilson has been sacked 22 times through 5 games so far.

Maybe trading away their best offensive lineman for a TE who doesn't block wasn't such a hot idea.

the jury is till out on our OL this year, but after watching the transformation last year, I understand more how talent is important, but keeping personnel intact is just as.  The OL operates as a unit, and having the same guys in place every game does wonders.

[Mr. Scot]

Wilson has been sacked 22 times through 5 games so far.

Maybe trading away their best offensive lineman for a TE who doesn't block wasn't such a hot idea.

That trade is killing on both ends right now.

[KillaCamNewton]

That trade is killing on both ends right now.

right? this is the first trade ive ever seen thats ended up making both teams worse off

[Mr. Scot]

right? this is the first trade ive ever seen thats ended up making both teams worse off

It's probably happened before but I can't think of an example.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Heh... Remember when Wilson, Luck, & Kaepernick were fantastic young QBs that willed their teams ti victory, while Cam was a bust that Panther fans kept trying to cover for by blaming the O-line?

Don't forget RG Knee

[PandaPancake]

I thought a lot of those were our fans about Carolina. Oops

[panthers55]

For whatever reason, Cam has some of his poorest games against Seattle so while our defense has played them close the offense really has given the games away like with the pick six in the playoffs and and Cam dribbling the ball at his feet when he had a wide open receiver 8 yards away in the endzone for the win.  I hope Cam has a fantastic game and we score 31 on them this time.  That will go far to make Cam and the Panthers legitimate plus it makes us 5-0 and gives us a win in a game most felt we would lose at the beginning of the season.