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Is star regressing or are injuries to blame?

micnificent28

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I think it's the injuries. He was honestly pretty terrible at the start of the year to the point where Kyle Love was by far the better option at NT, but he's really picked it up the last 4-5 games where he's looking like he did his first two years. Once he got a solid month in I think he was in much better shape. Missing all that time prior to the regular season set him back.

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32 minutes ago, SinaloaPaisa said:

correct me if i am wrong, but our run D hasn't been that great this season. 

what do you guys think is the difference this year and in the past. 

It hasn't been great this year, although I think that when we have focused on stopping the run, we have.

It was dramatically worse last year, at least until the last 5 games or so. 

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Star is quite possibly the most important piece to our D.

He keeps Luke, TD and Co clean from guards.

He makes sure KK sees no double teams, as well as the Ends.

Nobody talks about it but CJ is the missing piece to our run D.

he diagnoses plays so well it can't be overstated.  We need him back.

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1 hour ago, SinaloaPaisa said:

correct me if i am wrong, but our run D hasn't been that great this season. 

what do you guys think is the difference this year and in the past. 

I actually disagree. Our run D might not look great on paper, but most of the runs I remember going for good yardage didn't go between the guards. They are usually bounced outside if memory serves me. A lot of time out LB's get picked on the outside runs. The few times they have gone up middle I can recall they were basically stuffed at the line and the shimmied out of it and broke a decent gain outside. But then I watch games in a fog of IPA's and habanero wings so I'm not the best person to write the history of Panthers football. 

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Yeah if I remember correctly, he was getting most of the praise between he and Short in 2013 and 2014. This is the first year Short has been talked about more often. There's alot of reasons for this, but I don't think our starting DTs are where the concern lies. I think it lies with the backups. Dwan and Colin Cole aren't getting any younger. I'm impressed by Love, but I won't complain if Gman finds some fresh DT blood in this coming draft.

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Based on what I have seen and what I know about being a DT, Star is doing what he is suppose to be doing as a NT. His primary job is to:

1. Command a Double Team(He Does That)

2. Keep Lineman off of the LBer's(He Does That)

3. Make some plays in the backfield (He Does That)

4. Free up the other D-Lineman to be 1 on 1 (He does that)

He is not flashy, but he always puts on his hard hat, construction boots, clocks in ready to work.

 

Our Run Defense is not bad, Because our linebackers play sideline to sideline, we are vulnerable to cut-backs and thats what has killed us.

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Those of you saying that Star keeps double teams off KK are wrong, I'm sorry. KK has consistently faced double teams all year.

Star is a good player. KK is a difference maker. Given the choice of only keeping one on a 2nd contract, KK is to me a no brainer choice.

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4 hours ago, UpstatePanther said:

I don't think our starting DTs are where the concern lies. I think it lies with the backups. Dwan and Colin Cole aren't getting any younger.

Just FYI, we cut Colin Cole earlier in the season.  May have been when we picked up Delaire.  I forget.

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6 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I know what his job is and that he is not a pass rusher. But it can be argued he applied much more pressure and was a dominate for against run where he was routinely seen making tackles for a loss.

This year I would say he has been average. Not sticking out either way.

Everyone is more dominant when they first hit the scene. I take you back to our Pre-season game against the Miami Dolphins.

Donkey Kong Suh ain't do poo that game, and even against JJ Watt he did not show up like he normally does,  and there has been other games like that as well. Do you blame that on regression, or studying film of your opponent and trying to execute the gameplan? I never said Short never gets double teamed, that is how Star gets sacks

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