Johnson and Hardy

[hepcat]

What are the odds Hardy pulls a "Ted Ginn" and comes back on a cheap deal after sucking it up on his new team?  0%?  -482%??

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

I tweeted the Kraken that his is welcome back next year.   The man was on the right track before that horrible night.  I remember him coming on asking for coat donations for charity.  The best way to redeem his image is to own it.  Come home and admit to his mistakes. 

[OneBadCat]

28 minutes ago, hepcat said:

What are the odds Hardy pulls a "Ted Ginn" and comes back on a cheap deal after sucking it up on his new team?  0%?  -482%??

That would be crazy. Hardy with Ealy coming into his own with Delaire, Addison. Hopefully CJ will be here. Would be nuts if Allen resigned too.

[firefox1234]

37 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

I hope hardy's situation serves as a great lesson to all the fellas in the NFL.. stay away from the crazy ass chicks!

The world will continue to have crazy ass chicks just as much as crazy ass dudes. It all really comes down to how the individual handles the situation.

[SOJA]

40 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Who knows what would have happened if he had stayed here and that mess hadn't happened. Can't look at a player in a vacuum. Hardy was trending up and was/is young. A year away from football wasn't good for his development.

 

im not a hardy homer, kind of a dismissive way to brush aside a reasonable response I had. 

What? I never said you were, and I don't believe I was being dismissive. I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the posters on this board who literally think Hardy did nothing wrong. 

Exactly who knows what would have happened? Knowing Hardy he would have made some other poor choice off the field by this point.

My original post was that Hardy rarely showed up against good teams- we are a good team. Thus I'm not surprised he didn't register a stat against us. You can say his presence was felt in terms of pressure and run support, but not registering a tackle against us doesn't really lend itself to that argument. 

[Pantera_Negro_Mateo]

I haven't given it much thought since he left, but this makes me sad that this all went down. Obviously he was in the wrong, and there was nothing wrong with G-man letting him go at that point. Just wish Hardy could have made better choices. These pics remind me of how much I liked him when he was in black and blue.

[TheRumGone]

10 minutes ago, SOJA said:

What? I never said you were, and I don't believe I was being dismissive. I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the posters on this board who literally think Hardy did nothing wrong. 

Exactly who knows what would have happened? Knowing Hardy he would have made some other poor choice off the field by this point.

My original post was that Hardy rarely showed up against good teams- we are a good team. Thus I'm not surprised he didn't register a stat against us. You can say his presence was felt in terms of pressure and run support, but not registering a tackle against us doesn't really lend itself to that argument. 

I gotcha. And what I meant was if he had still been on the field, in Carolina, who knows what his growth as a football player would be. He was trending up. Then he got a year vacation. You can't just look at one game, against us, and say see? That's looking at things in a vacuum. That was the point I was trying to make.

Greg did a lot of stuff that not only registered in pressures, sack numbers, setting the edge but he allowed our linebackers to play better. And he did this against really good teams. 49ers, New England, Seattle. He played hard until the final whistle and gave us a nasty identity on the d line. I think calling him overrated or trying to compare him to Luke or jj is unfair. It is what it is. Hardy will never be back nor should he be. 

This will be the last time I mention him this season, too much good poo going on right now. Feels like those pics Jeremy posted closed the book on everything. Great closure.

 

[tiger7_88]

All the wishcasting in this thread... lawd have mercy.

And the rationalization that OJ got away with murder, ergo the NFL and the Panthers "screwed" Greg Hardy is GENIUS.

[chknwing]

10 hours ago, PantherPhann89 said:

He still wants to be a Panther...

when your 11-0, everyone does

[Dunn]

3 hours ago, hepcat said:

What are the odds Hardy pulls a "Ted Ginn" and comes back on a cheap deal after sucking it up on his new team?  0%?  -482%??

I don't think its up to him...BigCat would have to be convinced otherwise.

[SamMills4Life]

There is no doubt that the loss of Hardy was more damaging mentally than it was physically. The defensive leaders of this team took a hit physiologically, and it's obvious in the photos that they still have a strong bond..

We would have had a 10-6 record or better last year if we had Greg Hardy.

[SamMills4Life]

9 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Anybody else notice after one play hardy going up to cam (I presume to help him up) and cam brushed him off and ran to the sidelines. The look on gregs face was legit shock. 

Dang, that's cold and a little out of character for Cam. Guess Cam believes he did it.

[Kevin Greene]

If I never hear Greg Hardy's name again I'm good with that.

[philw5289]

It was nice seeing him huh everyone after the game. Miss him here a lot but he did it to himself unfortunately