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Larry Fitzgerald vs. Cortland Finnegan

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tukafan21 Grand Master

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32 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

Except that most of our defensive schemes involve zone and changing that would screw up more than one thing. We know our identity. And that has gotten us this far. I agree with the other posters saying that pressure on Palmer is the likely key. I haven't decided if blitzing is the way to do it yet. I need more information to form that opinion. Blitzing opens you up against a good QB. I like Luke and TD covering the middle as usual. Luke proved he is otherworldly just last game. But I definitely don't think we should change our scheme to cover one guy.

We have something very few teams have, but one all teams desire, a shut down corner.

I don't care about schemes, he is being wasted if you're not having him shadow a future HOFer like Fitz.

If anyone but Norman covers him, we'll need help over the top, and we already will need help over the top with their other speedsters.

So why wouldn't we have Norman locked up 1-on-1 with Fitz so the other DB's can help each other out on their smaller and quicker WRs?

By not moving Norman around to shadow a #1 like Fitz it also makes it way to easy for other teams to game plan because they know they can keep Norman off Fitz by just playing him in the slot.

If we still had Bene and Peanut things would be different.  But right now in those places we are playing guys who were sitting at home 2 months ago.

So using the argument of "why would we change what we've done all season?" Isn't valid now as we don't have the players to do what we've done all year anymore.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

We have something very few teams have, but one all teams desire, a shut down corner.

I don't care about schemes, he is being wasted if you're not having him shadow a future HOFer like Fitz.

If anyone but Norman covers him, we'll need help over the top, and we already will need help over the top with their other speedsters.

So why wouldn't we have Norman locked up 1-on-1 with Fitz so the other DB's can help each other out on their smaller and quicker WRs?

By not moving Norman around to shadow a #1 like Fitz it also makes it way to easy for other teams to game plan because they know they can keep Norman off Fitz by just playing him in the slot.

While from a pure talent perspective I agree...but playing the slot is different than playing outside. Bene said it before the season started in the podcast. He explained how you have to know so much more playing slot than playing wide. Maybe the coaches know that Josh isn't comfortable playing in the slot for more than a few snaps. I don't know. Could be a factor. Also our defensive scheme is a big part of what and how we play defense...much like Seattle, and I wouldn't throw it out in this game. But I understand your concern. It's the biggest conundrum for this game.

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1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

coleman will roll coverage to his side of the field all day. he'll also get help on the intermediate stuff from the linebackers, who will often drop into coverage on his side of the field. this will of course open up stuff for other guys on their offense, but that's what blue chip players do for you.

the defensive line will be key to this matchup more than they usually are.

I was kind of disappointed with Coleman on Sunday. He was out of position all day. Don't know what was wrong with him. Hopefully he returns to form this Sunday.

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3 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

While from a pure talent perspective I agree...but playing the slot is different than playing outside. Bene said it before the season started in the podcast. He explained how you have to know so much more playing slot than playing wide. Maybe the coaches know that Josh isn't comfortable playing in the slot for more than a few snaps. I don't know. Could be a factor. Also our defensive scheme is a big part of what and how we play defense...much like Seattle, and I wouldn't throw it out in this game. But I understand your concern. It's the biggest conundrum for this game.

I would agree with that if this was against almost any other slot WR in the league as most are smaller, quicker, and shiftier WRs.

But that's not Fitz, he's not running the routes that 99% of slot WRs run, would be a much easier transition for Norman.

Stopping their WRs is my only concern in this game due to our injuries at CB, I think we are superior across the board in all other match ups, so I don't want to see that one thing cost us a trip to the SB in what has been a special season.

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13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

We have something very few teams have, but one all teams desire, a shut down corner.

I don't care about schemes, he is being wasted if you're not having him shadow a future HOFer like Fitz.

If anyone but Norman covers him, we'll need help over the top, and we already will need help over the top with their other speedsters.

So why wouldn't we have Norman locked up 1-on-1 with Fitz so the other DB's can help each other out on their smaller and quicker WRs?

By not moving Norman around to shadow a #1 like Fitz it also makes it way to easy for other teams to game plan because they know they can keep Norman off Fitz by just playing him in the slot.

If we still had Bene and Peanut things would be different.  But right now in those places we are playing guys who were sitting at home 2 months ago.

So using the argument of "why would we change what we've done all season?" Isn't valid now as we don't have the players to do what we've done all year anymore.

I agree to a point. 

I think they will sneak in Josh on Fitz on NON passing downs. This can confuse Palmer and take away the element of surprise. 

Then on obvious passing downs play Josh in his normal spot. Don't do this all the time of course but disrupt Palmer and never allow him to get comfortable. 

 

I think rolling a lb over or adding help is the obvious play so that's why i think add some new looks just for this game.

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2 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

 

 

 

I agree with this.. without having to spy on the QB, it will allow our LBs to roam a bit more.

Personally I'd man up on the WRs with safety coverage over the top, varying in cover 1 and cover 2 type coverages for the safeties, I think that would allow the LB group to help out across the middle and swing out wide for the designed RB passes.  

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2 hours ago, rodeo said:

KK Short. Pressure up the middle early and often. That will be the key. Make it so our CBs don't have to hold coverage for overly long. We need a feeding frenzy on Palmer.

Yes sir! They can't block both Star and KK and still manage to keep Luke, Shaq and Davis accounted for.

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