$16 mil per year actually a reasonable starting point

[csx]

5 minutes ago, jumpman910 said:

Personally I wouldn't pay him $16 mil,  he's earned to be one of the highest paid corners tho.  He's worked for it and deserves to be paid as such. Just won't be here and if 12.5 is what the offer is that's an insult when janoris makes 14 mil. But in two seasons 16 mil for corners will be the going rate for ones that may not be as productive as josh.  As the cap goes up so will the salaries. When Bortles and Carr reup on deals they'll easily make more than Cam and we'll all laugh but it's just the nature of the beast.  So in theory if josh can give his next team 4 more good years then it's not such a crazy investment. But regardless of what happens some panther fans will still bitch and moan like females about josh wanting to get paid. He's earned and I hope he gets it from someone.  I say enjoy his last season and keep building for continued success. 

I don't think 16 million will be the going rate for CB in two years given that this year the average for the very top CBs in the league is at $14. 

[Bartin]

9 minutes ago, csx said:

Clearly he is a contributor to our success but I don't think he's worth it. That's just my opinion.  And I fully understand how the market dictates position salaries but seeing him get nearly $4 million more than Kuechly on average just doesn't seem right. 

I agree with you there. Kawann is also going to be well above Luke in terms of average salary whenever he gets an extension as well. Kawann is more worth it than Josh is, but it's also not really right that he will get more than Luke. Luckily, Luke probably couldn't care less about it so that's a positive.

[Bartin]

14 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

TD and Olsen have proven their worth over time.  Norman gave us 1 very good year...his contract year.

Agree with that. Was just speaking to the point that Gettleman will give out big money extensions to players in their 30s if it's the right player.

[Growl]

An ideal scenario may be that Bene and Boykin perform at a high level this year and are signed to healthier long term contracts and we only go into the following season in need of a 3rd guy

[NanuqoftheNorth]

48 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

Norman will turn 30 in December and we all know that Gettleman hasn't had a history of shelling out big bucks to "older" players.  He had the cajones to cut Smith, DeAngelo, and Charles Johnson, all key players for the Panthers organization, before paying them big bucks.   I just don't see Gettleman dropping a $16 mill a year deal with a 30 year old cornerback.  We know he loves the Hog Mollies and I could guess that his focal point is to lock up KShort and Star.

This^^^.  Paying big money via long term contracts to players in the twilight of their careers is why some GMs are unable to retain younger talent needed to remain competitive.  See: Marty Hurney.  

Norman is looking out for #1 and I can't blame him.

DG is looking out for the Panthers and I can't blame him either.

At the end of the day it may just be better for everyone involved if Norman and the Panthers part ways.

[shaqattaq]

14 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

TD and Olsen have proven their worth over time.  Norman gave us 1 very good year...his contract year.

exactly! I like Norman, but he has not been consistent. He came in very raw, and has busted his ass to become one of the best CB's in the league, but only for 1 year. If he repeats his performance (it is another contract year after all) then we can talk $16 million. 

[Catufb85]

I agree with you we did extend Olsen and TD, you are correct sir, and the only real thing I can say about that statement is that again Olsen and TD have produced longer than a year before their extensions.  Norman was a 5th round pick out of Coastal and has been pretty invisible until last season... Norman started his career in 2012 and from that time up until last year had a total of 3 INTs, 91 tackles (about 30 a year) and 0 TDs.  Last year he had 4 INT and 2 TD and 48 tackles. I would consider that one year wonder.  But although my point seems very negative, and I think its due to the fact Norman is being a "me before the team" kinda of guy right now.  I want him here, but for the right price and a price that won't cripple the team.  Understand hes trying to get paid.  But the guys making $14 mill a year example Sherman who came in the league 2011 has 26 INT's to your 7 with just a year difference. 

 

[shaqattaq]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

This^^^.  Paying big money via a long term contracts to players in the twilight of their careers is why some GMs are unable to retain younger talent needed to remain competitive.  See: Marty Hurney.  

Norman is looking out for #1 and I can't blame him.

DG is looking out for the Panthers and I can't blame him either.

At the end of the day it may just be better for everyone involved if Norman and the Panthers part ways.

After he helps us win SB51 of course.

[jumpman910]

10 minutes ago, csx said:

I don't think 16 million will be the going rate for CB in two years given that this year the average for the very top CBs in the league is at $14. 

Not average corners but for the guys who deserve it.  Especially if a team gives Josh the 16 mil. 

[Montsta]

I believe if Josh Norman was 25-27 years old then Gettleman wouldn't be as worried about $16MM per year. But as he gets older and maybe his production drops off (see Charles Johnson), then you have a guy with guaranteed big bucks who isn't worth it at that point and your stuck with 10 lbs. of poo in a 9 lb. bag. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

4 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I believe if Josh Norman was 25-27 years old then Gettleman wouldn't be as worried about $16MM per year. But as he gets older and maybe his production drops off (see Charles Johnson), then you have a guy with guaranteed big bucks who isn't worth it at that point and your stuck with 10 lbs. of poo in a 9 lb. bag. 

This.  The answer is to tag him this season and draft his replacement.

Norman should seriously consider accepting somewhat less to get a multi year contract from the Panthers.

If he did he could stay with a solid organization that he knows and will likely be a contender for the rest of his career.  At the end of the day, he'll have earned enough to be financially set for several lifetimes and some great memories to boot.

OR

He can continue to insist on top dollar from the Panthers and find himself playing for some bottom feeder for the rest of his career.  At the end of the day, he'll still have earned enough to be financially set for several lifetimes, plus the haunting thoughts of what might have been.

[Jeremy Igo]

David Newton has no idea how much gettleman is willing to pay. 

[Mvp2014]

The Don ain't paying norman north of $12 mil a year.  I don't think the value is there... Spend it on D line.  Even if he was Revis in his prime Getts wouldn't pay him $16mil.  No DB is worth that, sorry

[morgan55]

I feel like Norman after this season will go play for a team like the raiders and he will get picked on