Observations From PS WK2

[TylerDurden]

*The first and most obvious one was Worley.  Man, that was tough to watch.  As i mentioned in the "Worley unimpressed" thread, the first thing I thought of when watching was Norman's early years, mainly because of comparisons based off of measurables since the draft...  but, I couldn't bring myself to compare him to JNo.  I can see it, and have seen it in all gameplay I've seen from Bradberry and some of the same positive traits in Sanchez.  Worley has been the constant mystery for me out of all our baby backs...  and today looked horrible.  Maybe it is just one game and a one-off, bad performance.  But, as i said elsewhere, to me it doesn't appear to be system-related with him to me.  He didn't seem to have good position, outside of one catch walker made.  He seems stiff and slow to react.  Maybe technique and continued reps will help, but that looked just about as bad as you could imagine.  At the end of the day, it was one game, but compared to his peers, he hasn't seemed to impress as much as they have to this point either.  I wonder if the top 3 corners end up being Bradberry, Bene, and Sanchez...

*Speaking of Bene and Sanchez - great bounce back for both of these guys.  A great play of redemption of sorts for Bene following some reported rough moments in camp and as far as Sanchez, great play on a ball following that blown coverage on the corner route TD earlier.  I also really loved Sanchez getting in there and mixing it up and finishing around the ball where he could.  I know sonce camp started the big concern was Sanchez's ability to tackle, and he showed no hesitation in getting in there today.  Bene and Sanchez's stock are on the rise.

*Teddy Ginn...  what more to say.  Still doesn't get enough respect or his just due as a reciever.  His ability to separate from the pack is otherworldly and a beautiful thing to watch.  He is a beast and deserves more appreciation than he gets.  I love this guy!  Keep doing work, Teddy!

*Damiere Byrd...  this guy, in my mind, is an absolute lock to make the team and contribute this year.  His versatility is invaluable and he looks absolutely explosive.  One thing that stood out to me, that i know the staff has spoke about with other players in the past, was that Byrd lined up at every reciever position on the field at different points of the game.  His work since last year shows in every aspect of the game...  he can play every reciever position, he can return kicks, he runs smooth routes and gets out of his breaks fast, he can beat the defense over the top, and it appears our team trusts him in toght windows for tough catches over the middle as well.  I can't express how impressed I am with him from last year to this year.  I know it's early, but I see potential to be an even better version of Philly.

*Donald Hawkins - I know Gradkowski was in there and Williams was back in at RT with the 2s, so the overall group was better, but Hawkins stood out.  There didnt seem to be much drop off from the 1s to the 2s today, and I think he played a big part in that.

*Anyone else notice Shaq barely playing with the 1s.  We've heard to look out for him playing a lot on the nickel this season, but curiously enough, today it seemed we were running nickel and dime predominantly with our 1s and I didn't see Shaq out there - instead it appeared to be all DB lineups.  I noticed Sanchez and Bene getting reps with the 1s before Shaq.  One play it even appeared we brought in extra corners and dropped Worley back to safety depth over the slot.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I had a lot going on during the game, but it looked like Shaq came in with Klein's unit for his most extended look along with the rest of the 2s.  I have no idea what this means, but found it interesting...  I know Shaq is super impressive thus far this season and I'm confident he's well on his way to being a beast, so my guess is that they just wanted the extra reps for the DBs and/or wanted to experiment with different combos of personnel and see how they mesh.

*Cam and the offense (especially the recievers)...  I can't wait to see them play an entire game.  This offense could be historically great.

 

 

 

[KB_fan]

7 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

One play it even appeared we brought in extra corners and dropped Worley back to safety depth over the slot.

We were really thin at safety.  Three went out with injuries, at least temporarily. (Colin Jones later returned)

Here's what BBR wrote about injuries:

• S Travell Dixon left the game early in the first quarter after taking a shot to the chest while making a nice tackle on a kickoff.

• S Trenton Robinson, who injured his shoulder in the second quarter while trying to make a tackle on a punt, will have an MRI on Sunday.

• S Marcus Ball missed a couple plays early in the fourth quarter after something happened to his right knee. With the Panthers low on safeties, CB Daryl Worley jumped back there until Ball returned.

[top dawg]

12 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

*The first and most obvious one was Worley.  Man, that was tough to watch.  As i mentioned in the "Worley unimpressed" thread, the first thing I thought of when watching was Norman's early years, mainly because of comparisons based off of measurables since the draft...  but, I couldn't bring myself to compare him to JNo.  I can see it, and have seen it in all gameplay I've seen from Bradberry and some of the same positive traits in Sanchez.  Worley has been the constant mystery for me out of all our baby backs...  and today looked horrible.  Maybe it is just one game and a one-off, bad performance.  But, as i said elsewhere, to me it doesn't appear to be system-related with him to me.  He didn't seem to have good position, outside of one catch walker made.  He seems stiff and slow to react.  Maybe technique and continued reps will help, but that looked just about as bad as you could imagine.  At the end of the day, it was one game, but compared to his peers, he hasn't seemed to impress as much as they have to this point either.  I wonder if the top 3 corners end up being Bradberry, Bene, and Sanchez...

*Speaking of Bene and Sanchez - great bounce back for both of these guys.  A great play of redemption of sorts for Bene following some reported rough moments in camp and as far as Sanchez, great play on a ball following that blown coverage on the corner route TD earlier.  I also really loved Sanchez getting in there and mixing it up and finishing around the ball where he could.  I know sonce camp started the big concern was Sanchez's ability to tackle, and he showed no hesitation in getting in there today.  Bene and Sanchez's stock are on the rise.

*Teddy Ginn...  what more to say.  Still doesn't get enough respect or his just due as a reciever.  His ability to separate from the pack is otherworldly and a beautiful thing to watch.  He is a beast and deserves more appreciation than he gets.  I love this guy!  Keep doing work, Teddy!

*Damiere Byrd...  this guy, in my mind, is an absolute lock to make the team and contribute this year.  His versatility is invaluable and he looks absolutely explosive.  One thing that stood out to me, that i know the staff has spoke about with other players in the past, was that Byrd lined up at every reciever position on the field at different points of the game.  His work since last year shows in every aspect of the game...  he can play every reciever position, he can return kicks, he runs smooth routes and gets out of his breaks fast, he can beat the defense over the top, and it appears our team trusts him in toght windows for tough catches over the middle as well.  I can't express how impressed I am with him from last year to this year.  I know it's early, but I see potential to be an even better version of Philly.

*Donald Hawkins - I know Gradkowski was in there and Williams was back in at RT with the 2s, so the overall group was better, but Hawkins stood out.  There didnt seem to be much drop off from the 1s to the 2s today, and I think he played a big part in that.

*Anyone else notice Shaq barely playing with the 1s.  We've heard to look out for him playing a lot on the nickel this season, but curiously enough, today it seemed we were running nickel and dime predominantly with our 1s and I didn't see Shaq out there - instead it appeared to be all DB lineups.  I noticed Sanchez and Bene getting reps with the 1s before Shaq.  One play it even appeared we brought in extra corners and dropped Worley back to safety depth over the slot.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I had a lot going on during the game, but it looked like Shaq came in with Klein's unit for his most extended look along with the rest of the 2s.  I have no idea what this means, but found it interesting...  I know Shaq is super impressive thus far this season and I'm confident he's well on his way to being a beast, so my guess is that they just wanted the extra reps for the DBs and/or wanted to experiment with different combos of personnel and see how they mesh.

*Cam and the offense (especially the recievers)...  I can't wait to see them play an entire game.  This offense could be historically great.

 

 

 

I agree and noticed everything you said. You beat me to the Ginn thing though. Spared everyone a Ginn thread. He's just too good to cut, even with his less than sure hands. He is an enigma, and his acceleration and transition into high gear is a beauty to see. Just when you think there's no way he can run past those guys, he does exactly that. 

[cookinbrak]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I agree and noticed everything you said. You beat me to the Ginn thing though. Spared everyone a Ginn thread. He's just too good to cut, even with his less than sure hands. He is an enigma, and his acceleration and transition into high gear is a beauty to see. Just when you think here's no way he can run past those guys, he does exactly that. 

I'll take those "sometimes" hands......

[Riverboat Ron]

When we drafted Worley I thought he'd be a better Safety than CB. 

[B.BERSIN]

Byrd should be another good product from SC for Panthers.

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

We were really thin at safety.  Three went out with injuries, at least temporarily. (Colin Jones later returned)

Here's what BBR wrote about injuries:

• S Travell Dixon left the game early in the first quarter after taking a shot to the chest while making a nice tackle on a kickoff.

• S Trenton Robinson, who injured his shoulder in the second quarter while trying to make a tackle on a punt, will have an MRI on Sunday.

• S Marcus Ball missed a couple plays early in the fourth quarter after something happened to his right knee. With the Panthers low on safeties, CB Daryl Worley jumped back there until Ball returned.

No dean Marlowe either

[KB_fan]

4 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

No dean Marlowe either

Correct, that was only part of BBR's injury report - focused on those who were injured in game, there was a separate listing of those who did not play,

[Wundrbread33]

I think Worley just had a bad game. He isn't destined to be a terrible player because he got picked on in his second game as a pro.

[top dawg]

7 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I think Worley just had a bad game. He isn't destined to be a terrible player because he got picked on in his second game as a pro.

I don't think people are assuming he will be a "terrible player" in the longterm,  it's this season that some are worried about. Moreover, it's not like he was beaten by a wily veteran. Tajae Sharpe basically abused him. Now we have to wonder if that's going to be the blueprint for the opposition this year. 

On an off note, from a fantasy perspective, now I have to wonder if Sharpe is really that good, or was he just in the perfect situation (going against a fellow rook) to make him look better than he actually is. In my fantasy league we have three WR spots, a WR/TE and WR/RB spot, so a person like Tajae Sharpe could make an impact.  ;)

[MadHatter]

7 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I think Worley just had a bad game. He isn't destined to be a terrible player because he got picked on in his second game as a pro.

What worries me is if we have two rookie starting CB's to start the season.  One you can roll coverage to and help in our.  Two rookies (and the rookie mistakes they WILL make), exposes too much of the field.  I would feel much better with Bradberry and a vet starting....either Bene or McClain.  Only thing about Bene is is he plays outside, that puts Sanchez in the slot....and I am just not sure he is ready for that.

[KSpan]

Re: Shaq, he is much more of a known quantitiy than the DBs. No need for him to play as much right now. Plus, they may be saving his nickel looks for the regular season.

[PantherPhann89]

Hopefully Worley just had a tough day and come around. 

[Captain Morgan]

9 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

*Anyone else notice Shaq barely playing with the 1s.  We've heard to look out for him playing a lot on the nickel this season, but curiously enough, today it seemed we were running nickel and dime predominantly with our 1s and I didn't see Shaq out there - instead it appeared to be all DB lineups.  I noticed Sanchez and Bene getting reps with the 1s before Shaq.  One play it even appeared we brought in extra corners and dropped Worley back to safety depth over the slot.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I had a lot going on during the game, but it looked like Shaq came in with Klein's unit for his most extended look along with the rest of the 2s.  I have no idea what this means, but found it interesting...  I know Shaq is super impressive thus far this season and I'm confident he's well on his way to being a beast, so my guess is that they just wanted the extra reps for the DBs and/or wanted to experiment with different combos of personnel and see how they mesh.

 

no need for us to show the league what we're going to look like with TD, Luke and Shaq on the field at the same time.  Not to mention, this was a very important game for the young guys to show their stuff with some good players around them.

For the first time I was impressed with Cash, enough to think he might actually make the team.