What is Wrong with the Offense you ask?

[CPcavedweller]

Shula, Benjamin and Olsen. There is a love fest between Shula and those two and I believe the progressions move from Benji, to Olsen, to the slot, to Funchess. In two WR sets the wide receivers are usually Benjamin and Philly or Ginn. It is obvious when Funchess is actually targeted that he is one of if not the best pure receiver on the team due to his athleticism and ability to use his soft hands in one motion. 

I personally blame Shula for the lack of Fun in the offense and I believe that Funchess is generally the last target. The QB hasn't had time to get beyond his second option. They aren't making the correct pre-snap reads and moving off of Benjamin or Olsen near fast enough to get to Funchess's spot in the progression. Anyone who knows football, and professional football in particular, it isn't as simple as "he sucks" or "he slow". He had a solid rookie year, Cam had an MVP season, Olsen was one of the best in the game at his position, Stew was healthy, and Benjamin was injured. 

The only thing that has changed with the offense is that Stew isn't healthy and Benjamin is. The two seasons that KB has played, we have started slow on offense and Cam clearly uses him as a crutch, or so I thought until last night. The entire offense is built around a relatively slow receiver which leads to slow developing plays which leads to our QB's missing other open receivers and getting their clock's cleaned. 

Thank you for taking the time to read this and understanding this situation a little better.

In a nutshell, Shula has tailored this offense to the wrong player. 

[pstall]

I have mentioned this before the season and more so now.

The team was forced to spread the ball around last year due to KB being out and I'd say it worked out pretty well.

Notice so far this season looks alot like 2014? The common denominator is KB. Supposedly a better line of course.

I think they are actually limited with KB from the 30 to 30. This team is much more dynamic when they spread it around.  In fact what team isn't?

[Jeremy Igo]

3 hours ago, pstall said:

I have mentioned this before the season and more so now.

The team was forced to spread the ball around last year due to KB being out and I'd say it worked out pretty well.

Notice so far this season looks alot like 2014? The common denominator is KB. Supposedly a better line of course.

I think they are actually limited with KB from the 30 to 30. This team is much more dynamic when they spread it around.  In fact what team isn't?

Are the QB's forced to throw to KB or are they choosing to do so. 

[pstall]

Could be a combo of the two.

[The Lobo]

I wish funch was the number two. He isn't as bad as ppl on here says he is. He runs routes with ease and fights for yards. He can go up and get the ball and is very physical. Put Ginn in slot and funch as the two please.

[Jon Snow]

For some reason they are locking on to only one or two guys from the snap.  I've noticed it from the first game on and it's only getting worse. 

[csx]

I suppose its bad to gear your offense to your 2 best weapons? 

Not long ago the issue was not getting the ball to KB or Olsen here.

[pstall]

I asked and don't recall if it was answered in the Atlanta game review thread but how were the check downs and formations?

The two go hand in hand because we are predictable both in looks and execution. 

I also asked if Atlanta did alot of green dog blitzing.  If so that is what every team is going to do.

[beastson]

I do agree it is an issue, I've noticed this season is too much like 2014 and KB is the common denominator

Ginn seems to have regressed a little. Philly and Ginn are cancelling each other out, Philly is the slot. If we put KB in the slot, who the hell can be successful out the outside opposite of KB. Time to start targeting Fun more. As of right now its like this offense has a 1, and a bunch of 3s, receivers wise

[KSpan]

The problem is that they aren't scoring more points than the other team. Doing that typically results in victory.

In all seriousness though, trying to force the ball to one or two options could definitely result in holding it longer. I sincerely hope they aren't trying to force-feed the ball to particular guys.

[usmcpanthers]

The problem is situational playing call and not adjusting to what the opponent gives us. The other part is failure to execute basic fundamentals.

[tiger7_88]

26 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Are the QB's forced to throw to KB or are they choosing to do so. 

Good question.

There is a primary read on every pass play, correct?  Is that primary read almost always KB?  If so, should it be?

These are the questions to which we need answers. :)

[CPantherKing]

I tend to think it is Ginn, Funchess, CAP, and Tolbert with 14 touches/targets on 3rd downs and only 2 converted first downs.

That accounts for 25% of the Panthers offensive drives. 41% of the unsuccessful drives in the Panthers' 4 losses.

If players can not succeed on 3rd down, then should they be in the 3rd down packages?

3 of the 9 interceptions thrown came on 3rd down. All of them were thrown to Ted Ginn.

Both 1st down interceptions were thrown to Olsen, and the 2nd down interceptions were thrown to KB.

Could there be a pattern here that defenses have figured out? Seems the defense is sitting on Olsen on 1st down, KB on 2nd down, and Ginn on 3rd down. I wonder if that has anything to do with the offense last year targeting Ginn the most on 3rd down and Olsen the most on 1st down while heavily favoring KB on 2nd down in 2014.

I don't know... maybe change it up from year to year? Try Ginn/Brown on 1st down passing, KB on 3rd down, and Funchess on 2nd down as your preferred primary targets. Then use Olsen as the second read, and Fozzy as the 3rd read.

At the very least, instruct the QB NOT to force the ball in to Olsen on 1st down, KB on 2nd down, or Ginn on 3rd down as those will be the higher risk targets the defense will be watching for that given down.

[Moose87Banks]

Ginn should be running go routes every time.


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