Oh how close we were

[beastson]

11 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

You must be foolish enough to believe you can just replace Ron and that person will instantly be better. Tell me a coach who immediately will be better than Ron, is available for hire, and has a proven track record of head coach experience. And wants to take over a 4-12 Panther team with a GM who has proven to be unpopular with players and agents and has shown no evidence he will spend the money needed to improve this team. And don't say Norv Turner. Rivera has a much better track record that Turner.

The season isn't even over yet. You don't know who will be available. And your whole premise of who else can we find makes no sense. First time head coaches get hired all the time. Coaches get fired all the time and coaches get hired all the time. You think teams actually sit around and say we're not going to fire him cause we don't have anybody else? That's their job is to find one

[panthers55]

17 minutes ago, beastson said:

The season isn't even over yet. You don't know who will be available. And your whole premise of who else can we find makes no sense. First time head coaches get hired all the time. Coaches get fired all the time and coaches get hired all the time. You think teams actually sit around and say we're not going to fire him cause we don't have anybody else? That's their job

First time coaches get hired by rebuilding teams or teams desperate for a change. We are a contender with an open window. Why would.we want to take a chance on a guy with no head coaching experience. And exactly what would you change about the coordinators. Make Proehl or Dorsey the OC and maybe Steve Wilkes the DC. Promote McDermott to HC.  Or change everything. 

And yeah I know that teams consider who they can get before they let their current coach go. If you go 4-12 for 3 years in a row then you fire them and roll the dice. But if you are one year removed from the Superbowl with a squad that leads the league in guys on IR and concussions. And you are losing close games for the most part. You stand pat and you expect a better product on the field next year. Meaning coaches, players and the GM all need to look to the future by improving in the now. Let's be real here, Gettleman cost himself millions in hometown discounts by not having a winning season and not being as attractive a place to play as last year. 

 

[Randolph Panther]

Not saying I am advocating for firing Rivera, but I would love an opportunity to snag up John Harbaugh if he ever came available.  I might even be willing to give up a couple lower draft picks for him.  

[JawnyBlaze]

3 NFCS titles loses meaning when the middle one was 7-8-1.  I said it in another thread, two good seasons out of six ain't good enough. He's shown no improvement as a coach except when his job is on the line.  When he feels secure he stubbornly goes back to his old, broken ways.  This is not someone we can grow into a consistent powerhouse with. If he can't grow, neither can we.  We have the players to build a dominant team around.  Gentleman deserves some blame for this year, but a 15-1 team with the poor offseason we had should regress to a 10-12 win team. Not a 4-6 win team.  That is the coaches...plural. 

[arieslibra1]

11 hours ago, beastson said:

Like I mentioned before

John Fox last 3 years in Denver (you know the coach Ron replaced here)

Record 13-3 Lost to Ravens, who went on to win the SB in Divisional Round

Record 13-3 Lost SB to Seattle

Record 12-4 Lost in Divisional Round to Colts

Fired. Denver goes on to win the SB right after

So why are we giving Ron a pass? The injuries excuses needs to go away, we was garbage before the injuries. There's enough talent on this team to not finish 4-12. 2 out of 6 seasons over .500 isn't going to cut it. He's never been a good coach

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I could only imagine what a guy like Kyle Shanahan & Josh McDaniels could do in CAR.

Sadly, I can see Rivera staying 2 more years since he got that extension. CAR too cheap to fire people. 

I wonder who Gettleman would have hired as his own guy though.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[csx]

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

You must be foolish enough to believe you can just replace Ron and that person will instantly be better. Tell me a coach who immediately will be better than Ron, is available for hire, and has a proven track record of head coach experience. And wants to take over a 4-12 Panther team with a GM who has proven to be unpopular with players and agents and has shown no evidence he will spend the money needed to improve this team. And don't say Norv Turner. Rivera has a much better track record that Turner.

I'm not at all in favor of replacing the coach. however, most anyone offered the job would take it.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, csx said:

I'm not at all in favor of replacing the coach. however, most anyone offered the job would take it.

Depends on who they are and what else was available. We are surely not a popular place to coach if you give the coach of the year 2 out of the past three years and was the most winningest coach in our franchise history the boot after a losing season after going 15-1 and almost winning the Superbowl.

[ickmule]

On 12/7/2016 at 10:53 AM, beastson said:

Like I mentioned before

John Fox last 3 years in Denver (you know the coach Ron replaced here)

Record 13-3 Lost to Ravens, who went on to win the SB in Divisional Round

Record 13-3 Lost SB to Seattle

Record 12-4 Lost in Divisional Round to Colts

Fired. Denver goes on to win the SB right after

So why are we giving Ron a pass? The injuries excuses needs to go away, we was garbage before the injuries. There's enough talent on this team to not finish 4-12. 2 out of 6 seasons over .500 isn't going to cut it. He's never been a good coach

Based on 6 winning seasons out of 22, none of our coaches have been good. There's a common denominator in all of this............JR.  

[Harbingers]

4 hours ago, ickmule said:

Based on 6 winning seasons out of 22, none of our coaches have been good. There's a common denominator in all of this............JR.  

You wouldn't have a football team without JR. Quit being ungrateful. 

[ickmule]

On 12/8/2016 at 5:19 PM, Harbingers said:

You wouldn't have a football team without JR. Quit being ungrateful. 

After 22 years of heartbreak I really don't care so much anymore. It's like watching Groundhog Day over and over. We know what's coming and it's become too predictable.  I'm sure JR is a super great person, but that is what also makes him not a great owner........he's too patient and doesn't look outside of the box for a coach......,,all of our coaches have pretty much been the exact same personality......with the exception of Siefert. 

[Hoenheim]

If Ron or Shula do leave I bet you by that time Cam will be 30 and Greg and Davis will be long gone. Waste your hall of fame level players prime years under some conservative moronic coaches.

Us getting to the Super Bowl last year and winning the Division 3 years in a row, its going to take at least a 3 or 4 strait losing seasons to get rid of both of them. These coaches are lucky as hell trying to coast and ride Cam's coattails to victory.

[gorillamilitia13]

11 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

If Ron or Shula do leave I bet you by that time Cam will be 30 and Greg and Davis will be long gone. Waste your hall of fame level players prime years under some conservative moronic coaches.

Us getting to the Super Bowl last year and winning the Division 3 years in a row, its going to take at least a 3 or 4 strait losing seasons to get rid of both of them. These coaches are lucky as hell trying to coast and ride Cam's coattails to victory.

And that is true but a damn, damn shame. One can hope that we will at least fire Shula this season and finally address the fuging o line in the off season.

[brandon_87]

On Wednesday, December 07, 2016 at 7:25 AM, joemac said:

Ron's not getting fired this year. I have to believe that he's built up at least a little bit of equity with 3 straight division titles and an NFC title. Now his coordinators are a different story....

I also think that if we start off next season like this season his seat will be nuclear hot.

Winning one of the division titles at 7-8-1 doesn't really mean poo, other then our division is hot garbage, not really an accomplishment