Gas On The Fire: Bill Voth Says - With Gun Pointed To Head - McCaffrey Likely Pick

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

I think we are going to take DE...which means Barnett.  Weak, but that will happen...even with the RBs on the board.

 

take a DE only if it is Thomas @ 8... too many better choices to go with Barnett at that spot...

[SmokinwithWilly]

27 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

To those that want McCaffery, all I have to say is he is a white version Reggie Bush thats a little less talented.  Reggie Bush was the greatest College player that I've ever seen, now he's been a good pro, but never a great one and has been on 5 different teams in 11 seasons. Fournette could be a Great running back, and I want greatness!

All that talent won't mean poo if our o-line isn't fixed. We still have 2 huge question marks on the edges. 

[jfo89]

1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

Did the Pats take their utility running backs in the top 10? First round? You're crazy if you think we're taking a utility player in the top 10. A guy who can carry an offense on his back and grind out tough yards, score TDs, break long game changing runs, and pass protect like Fournette? Sure. But not a gadget player.

If they think that player gives the team a better chance to win a superbowl then yes. I personally don't. I hope they don't draft him.. but if they did, the reasons in my previous post would be why. 

[Doc Holiday]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

All that talent won't mean poo if our o-line isn't fixed. We still have 2 huge question marks on the edges. 

But I'm not wrong am I?

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

Would hope not. Would be a very terrible decision honestly, based on the fact there's so much value at that TE position in this deep draft while we could get a much better player ahead.

Saca, the position doesn't matter. Do you not understand that? You take the BPA! If Howard is the BPA, then picking him is the best move. You don't pick an inferior player at another position because you think you can hedge your bets later with someone who is not the best. Take the BPA in the first, the second, the third, the fourth, and if you want to get "cute," do so on day three.

[davos]

I am just NOT expecting Fournette or Thomas to be available.  Adams is a long shot as well.  

It's pretty much in my mind we are getting OJ Howard or McCaffrey...or making moves.  

Honest---I think we'd draft McCaffrey over J. Allen tbqf.  I remember loving Elway to Ed and Rod with Terrell at RB growing up and Ed's son could be a really cool pairing with Cam on offense.  Use him as our slot and get those underneath throws from shotgun with Stewart next to Cam.  Use him in the shotgun at RB.  Use him returning punts.  

 

 

 

[weyco2000]

What happened to BPA in the first? I swear to God, if this man chooses another "project" at 8 and Fournette lands in NO, I'm gonna lose it.


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[top dawg]

17 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Who says Howard is BPA? I don't view him as BPA. It's a poo choice. If I had to choose between McCaffrey or Howard, I'd choose McCaffrey in a heartbeat. You guys are basing too much on Howard from his National Championship games and his combine performance. 

If Thomas, Adams, Hooker, Allen, Garrett, and Fournette are gone, then the next logical move is to trade back and draft Njoku or Peppers. 

We won't know who the BPA is obviously until the draft. If you believe Igo, then there is absolutely a scenario where Howard will be the BPA. 

I don't judge these guys based on anything really. I research information from many many sources and form an opinion from there. The thing is, these sources know much more than I do. Admittedly they're not perfect, but that's why I don't take one man's word and run with it, but listen to several (like Gil Brandt, Greg Cosell, Mike Mayock, Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, etc.), as well as attempt to read between the lines of Dave Gettleman's words, and reconcile it all with his philosophy. 

Even after all that, I don't presume to know more than he does, and on day one he hasn't missed yet as far as I'm concerned (though the jury is still out on Butler, but I can see him working out).

[top dawg]

And sure, if Dave wants to trade back, it's all copacetic. But if he picks Howard, McCaffrey, or Ross, I won't be crying "Bloody murder!"

[SmokinwithWilly]

40 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

But I'm not wrong am I?

It's hard to say. Fournette could be a total NFL flop. It happens. I think McC has an exceptional ability if he's used in the right system. I see him more in the mold of a Leveon Bell than AP because of his receiving ability but it's going to take a creative OC to let him shine. I'm not sure Shula is that guy. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

To those that want McCaffery, all I have to say is he is a white version Reggie Bush thats a little less talented.  Reggie Bush was the greatest College player that I've ever seen, now he's been a good pro, but never a great one and has been on 5 different teams in 11 seasons. Fournette could be a Great running back, and I want greatness!

I would tend to agree. Many draft experts have McCaffrey's comp being Bryant Westbrook. He was good, not great. 

[csx]

22 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I would tend to agree. Many draft experts have McCaffrey's comp being Bryant Westbrook. He was good, not great. 

Brian Westbrook was better than Bush.

[Riverboat Ron]

Not sure how I'd feel about him at #8, maybe Gettleman should turn the decision over to the Huddle since we have way more experience in scouting than him.

[TheSpecialJuan]

I'd be fine with him at 8 but only if Fournette and Solomon Thomas are not available.

Look at it this way; I believe Gman has McCaffrey rated higher than OJ Howard, Derek Barnett and David Njoku. So he will see McCaffrey as the best player available at 8. We would NOT be reaching here.