The McD/Bills/Beane Conspiracy Has Gone National

[Pejorative Miscreant]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation. Yeah, it looks questionable on the surface, but gotta remember McD is largely a product of the Gettleman-era Panthers. He has a better idea of who we're going to like than anyone in the league not currently employed by the Panthers and being a product of us, its logical to conclude that he's probably going to like some of the same prospects. I'm sure getting ahead of us was a primary driving factor of those trades, but I doubt it was due to any Beane conspiracy. That's a career ender for Beane if word got out about that.

It's a huge black eye for McD also.  If your name ain't belecheat that stuff will likely haunt you. 

[Jon Snow]

Anyone ever consider that he might as easily given them misinformation?  Doesn't look like Ron and Dave have an issue with what happened so it wouldn't surprise me if they tricked Shaun into both those picks.

[arbnranger]

1 hour ago, fieryprophet said:

 Beane leaves to join McD in Buffalo then best of luck in that awkward situation. The Panthers will be just fine.

Agree, and to quote my daughter:

"I know right!.....AWK-ward"

[arbnranger]

45 minutes ago, Snake said:

Just goes to show no one fears JR in the NFL. He is the biggest pushover owner. 

Word is on the street, you say that to his face and he will reach down and pull your liver out and show it to you. 

He's done it before man... and I mean recently. 

[panthers34]

2 hours ago, thebigcat said:

Even if Beane gave him our entire draft info
1) we meet up once every 4 years
2) it's flattering that other teams want to emulate us


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Well let's say the Bills loved Zay Jones and so did the Panthers.. If Beans goes and tells the Bills this then the Bills know they have to jump in front of us if they want Zay Jones. I think that's more of how it would impact us

[KendrickPanther]

I played that dumb predict a pick game on NFL.COM and got 7 of the top 10 right. Is it really that hard to notice what teams are after which players? He didn't need cloak and dagger tactics. He's probably listened to Ron vent all season.

[KendrickPanther]

I heard the Bears were worried that Chicago might trade up to 2 to take Trubisky so they made the Niners an offer they couldn't refuse!

[PntherPryd]

Slow connection so can't read whole thread.  My main concern is not McD or the bills but our own lax internal security.  From this situation to other "leaks" to the niners being in our playbook in the NFCCG all the way back to the patriot Super Bowl. We always seem to be the victim of loose info and I hate it.  

[The Lobo]

I enjoy a good conspiracy but this one seems a tad much. I mean, of course McD knew what players we wanted, we scout all year long, it's not just when the season is over. He probably knew our favorites and though "gee these guys are good, il get them before they do"

[JARROD]

Who cares,...

[Panthero]

3 hours ago, Ship said:

Just because our draft still went well doesn't mean it couldn't have been better, and even if we don't recognize the harm done because we don't know the difference, doesn't mean that action shouldn't go unpunished.

The attitude that it doesn't matter because we appear to be unaffected is a huge problem with the world at large today. You don't let poo pass you by because you're ok. Wrongdoing should be punished or else it turns into more down the line and when it does affect us, they can point to all the times we did nothing. It's short sighted.

I like Moton and Samuel too, not sure if Jones and Dawkins would be better, but the thing is we'll never know. If Gman would have taken those two guys over the ones we got, then I have to say I'd rather have our top choices. We can rationalize the picks as good anyway because we're fans, and honestly I feel like they'll both be great anyway. Lets not pretend that the guys who we would have taken sucked because we didn't get to take them-- reserve that for NFCS. There's no logic to saying that Zay isn't as good as Samuel, even though if we were given the option of both, we'd have taken Zay. Clearly the decision maker whose talent evaluation we all ultimately rely on would have made a different choice, so yeah I couldn't say Zay is worse. This all relies on the leaking being true though.

I'd also like to posit another idea-- what if Beane was a double agent? The FO was apparently jumping and cheering when we got to select Samuel. Maybe Beane fed them Zay as the target and allowed our guy to drop. Maybe we had both similarly graded, but Samuel fit better.. who knows.

meh, let it burn. start over.

[csx]

I think Beane would have been shown the door if this were remotely true. It's an interesting situation though.

[slumdogmillionaire]

The jumping twice was one thing but the LB Vallejo that we passed on.....that was weird Bc the new hottie who was guessing our picks right had us loving him.  Then next you you know bills picked him.  That just made me make that post about the mole....:Beane could have easily told them this kid is a player take him.  

[PantherCam213]

6 minutes ago, slumdogmillionaire said:

The jumping twice was one thing but the LB Vallejo that we passed on.....that was weird Bc the new hottie who was guessing our picks right had us loving him.  Then next you you know bills picked him.  That just made me make that post about the mole....:Beane could have easily told them this kid is a player take him.  

So could anyone else who was in the know or who had heard rumors.  Some of you don't need much to smear another man's name.