our biggest mistake in the past 10 years

[thefuzz]

Thinking Tolbert was a good enough backup to Stew during a Super Bowl run?

Everette Brown?

 

[L-TownCat]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

lol, 20 years ago.

I'm old, (sad face)

[jfra78]

Biggest mistake was Sean Gilbert.
 
period end of discussion.
 
damn, missed the 10 years part.
Replace Gilbert with either Clausen/Edwards/Brown

of the past 20 years, i would say Seifert.

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[JawnyBlaze]

Biggest mistake was promoting Shula. If they're just talking about draft mistakes it's the trade for Brown with Armanti a close second. 

[Lumps]

The worst mistake the Panthers franchise ever made was made by the owner and evidenced by a season that has made the all time worst in history (and sadly was diliberate), years of rebuilding, and an apology letter from the owner.

The worst mistake that cause this franchise the most undoubtably came from the 2010/11 lockout. 

We got lucky with Cam, without him I questions whether The Panthers would have bounced back so quickly. 

The next, and close runner up worst mistakes were made by the Panthers was overpaying and extending players that weren't worth close to their contracts starting in 2009 with Delhomme who just came out of surgery and made a playoff appearance strictly because of two 1k RBs, until Hurney's departure. The Panther just now got over the financial issues of that era.

Again without Cam, I really think this Franchise would really show more of the severe consequences of these mistakes which is ironic in the sense that if a rookie salary cap had not happened in the lockout year, I'd bet my life, literally, the FO would have never taken a chance on Cam.

[SOJA]

Most franchise altering moment was when Hurney decided not to trade next year's first to trade up for Pickles. That ended up being the number one pick in the draft and netted us Cam. 

[t96]

1 hour ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

Because of the way it turned out, no different than a draft bust.  Seems like a good idea, but it didn't work.  But fair enough to say he was producing on the field, and seemed to have turned the corner off the field.  

The argument about not signing him to a long term contract before franchising him is a good point though.  Could have been worse.  The E. Brown fiasco is also pretty bad.

The franchising of Hardy wasn't the mistake. He played the first game that year very well before the league bent us over backwards and put Hardy on the bullsh*t exempt list. Hardy's off field was completely irrelevant to how the Panthers got screwed over. If not for the exempt list nonsense, Hardy plays out his year on the tag and dominates (we clearly were intent on playing Hardy while the legal process sorted itself out, both DG and Ron seemed to believe that was the best way to handle it, and I agreed. JR and the league stepped in though and f*cked us over. Not Hardy). Hell, I think we could've beaten the Seahawks in the playoffs that year with Hardy, and who knows where that would've taken us. The franchising of Hardy wasn't the mistake in that situation. It was letting the league f*ck us over. If they are going to not let a player play then actually suspend him so we can get our cap space back. The exempt list was complete nonsense and bullsh*t and screwed us and the Vikings over. DG and Ron had it right in wanting to keep Hardy around that year, before and after the off field issues. That was not a mistake at all.

[t96]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Our biggest mistake was not getting a legit playmaker at receiver opposite Smitty for several years. Sure, we half-assed it with the likes of Jarrett and Colbert, etc., but we never got it done and the window to maximize Smitty closed.

To some degree I agree but I don't know that you can single out WR spot across from Smitty, and you can't say they didn't try. There was a whole lot of ineptitude in building a lot of the rest of the roster too while Smitty was here. Would another Muhammad type receiver in his prime across from Smitty later have actually helped us been much better those years? I don't really think so, but I don't know. 

[KillerKat]

Mike Shula

[L-TownCat]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

of the past 20 years, i would say Seifert.

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That was def a mistake.

[outlaw4]

25 minutes ago, Lumps said:

The worst mistake the Panthers franchise ever made was made by the owner and evidenced by a season that has made the all time worst in history (and sadly was diliberate), years of rebuilding, and an apology letter from the owner.

The worst mistake that cause this franchise the most undoubtably came from the 2010/11 lockout. 

We got lucky with Cam, without him I questions whether The Panthers would have bounced back so quickly. 

The next, and close runner up worst mistakes were made by the Panthers was overpaying and extending players that weren't worth close to their contracts starting in 2009 with Delhomme who just came out of surgery and made a playoff appearance strictly because of two 1k RBs, until Hurney's departure. The Panther just now got over the financial issues of that era.

Again without Cam, I really think this Franchise would really show more of the severe consequences of these mistakes which is ironic in the sense that if a rookie salary cap had not happened in the lockout year, I'd bet my life, literally, the FO would have never taken a chance on Cam.

It's hard to pick between the two. I'd argue that the latter had more far reaching consequences that negated the benefits of a lost season and blunted the benefits from drafting Cam. 

On the other hand, the 2010 season is the only time I recall when there was no hope going into it. John Fox taking veiled shots at the organization knowing that we were too cheap to fire him said it all. Even today, I'm not sure I could forgive the decisions made back then.

[PantherProfessor]

This is never really brought up, but ever since we forced Gross out without having an heir apparent the line has been make shift. I'd argue that has been one of the worst moves made in the last 10 years. We tried forcing him into a pay cut and he retired, he called our bluff. Chaos ensues. All on the FO 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Franchising Hardy? Dude, we had no idea he was gonna go apepoo. None of us saw it coming. Hindsight is 20/20. If anything, it was smart. Imagine if we would have extended him for 5 years with guaranteed money.

As for Smitty, y'all know damn well it was a locker room move. It sucked major ass but it had to be done for Cam.

Most horrible decisions weren't obviously horrible at the time they were made.

Everyone knew Hardy was a loose cannon. It's why he slipped to the 6th round in the draft. We gambled and it blew up in our face big time costing us a big chunk of cap that season and a major PR black eye.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

What in the actual fug are you talking about?? 

You honestly knew he'd beat up his girl and then proceed to explode on national television? Give me a fugging break. You knew nothing outside him being odd and being a premier pass rusher. Of course you're citing otherwise NOW. That's not how it works. Once again, be glad we didn't extend him and throw a poo ton of guaranteed money at him. 13 million in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter. 30-50 million on the other hand...

Jesus, you are such an over-reactive emotional child. 

No, no one knew that he would do what he did, but yes, everyone who was paying attention knew the guy had a few screws loose.