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Was DG that great?


SwagAces9030

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As much as he grew on me and I began to believe in what he was doing for us, was he that great? I mean we never had consecutive winning seasons under him (same as Hurney), and I feel this gets masked because we won the NFCS with a 7-8-1 record. We were still plagued by inconsistent play, the only thing he did correctly was get us out of cap Hell. That said Hurney seems to be thankful for a second opportunity and said he feels he learned from his mistakes. Which, I feel is a direct comment to his mistakes of dishing out big contracts on a crap roster. If he learns to be not as loyal to vets as he once was, but has a less harsh way of handling vets when action needs to be taken why is this so bad? Take the homer approach out of it and really look at DG's drafts, were they that impressive?

Hurney righted the wrong of Clausen with Cam in 2011, found us the best MLB in the league in 2012, while also drafting Norman in 2012. To me those three picks clearly are better than anything DG has brought to the table. Look at our 2014 draft outside of Trai Turner... Even in 2013 without the pick of Short that draft is horrible (yes I am not a fan of Star). Depth wise both GM's have very comparable history in the later rounds imo. Clearly Hurney had higher draft position to work with in 2011 and 2012 than DG has ever had, but would DG be picking in the teens and 20s if not for Hurneys draft picks of Cam and Luke? 

Just imagine this board if we woke up and Thomas Davis was released... We'd be calling for DG's head.

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Just now, SwagAces9030 said:

Why?

He has loaded this team with talent from the top of the roster to the bottom and he did it while digging us out of cap hell. What more can you ask from an NFL GM? His UDFA signings are better than most of Hurney's draft picks, for crying out loud.

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8 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

He has loaded this team with talent from the top of the roster to the bottom and he did it while digging us out of cap hell. What more can you ask from an NFL GM? His UDFA signings are better than most of Hurney's draft picks, for crying out loud.

What talent? Are you basing this on potential?

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To me, G-man's strong point was obviously business. As for his picks and ability to maximize FA, and maximizing the moment to get this team over the brink last season, he left too much meat on the bone, but this season was the crossroads. It was to be his definitive moment in my mind. I think that from a cap standpoint, he was unquestionably good, but there were still questions regarding his roster building, and ultimately whether he was the complete package. He got chopped off the knees rightly or wrongly before his legacy was cemented one way or another.

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