Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

After TD and Olsen....Norwell should be Next

DaveThePanther2008

Recommended Posts

DaveThePanther2008 Grand Master

DaveThePanther2008

Posted
Posted

TD and Olsen should get done pretty quickly and I hope and pray Hurney doesn't go Jon Beason or Jonathan Stewart crazy on the deals.

I think after these two players.  Norwell needs to get done.  I would think if we offered him the same as Turner we could lock him up.

I believe it is critical to our future.  Kalil as great as he is, isn't going to last forever. Having Norwell and Turner locked up for the next 4 or 5 years will make the transition for a new center much easier than having a free agent.  Not to mention the comfort level Cam will have with these two.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
The Huddler Grand Master

The Huddler

Posted
Posted

I dont even think TD needs an extension

 

 

 

dude looked bad last year. And a very tape oriented, honest, tell it like it is GM thinks he has deteriorated. Which he has. Time to let the 35 year old linebacker play out his last year of his deal and have him walk

 

that is the smart thing to do. The emotional dumb thing to do is to extend him further repressing Shaqs playing time and making it harder to retain younger guys. 

 

Seems like a lot of you guys are drinking the enotional, sentimental coolaid. Cant have it both ways. Cant dog on hurney but then turn around and say we should extend TD

 

we shouldnt. Period. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Cyberjag Newbie

Cyberjag

Posted
Posted

I would do Norwell first.  Olsen's already getting paid top 5 money, he just wants a top 5 contract and that's just a matter of extending him.  I wouldn't be surprised if they give him a couple of years on the end just so they can spread out his cap hit a little.

Once you get Norwell done, you have to look at what Star is going to command, and then you know how much you need to manage the cap through Olsen and what you can afford to pay Davis.

I wonder how Gettleman would have done it.  Regardless, I don't think Gano and his $4,000,000 hit makes it out of camp.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Udogg Enthusiast

Udogg

Posted
Posted
58 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

I dont even think TD needs an extension

 

 

 

dude looked bad last year.

SMH.  In comparison to who? 100 + tackles , 3 picks, 4 PD's  3.5 sacks.  Who is that a bad year for?  Compared to the previous year he is off by a few sacks.. but the defense over all was worse, especially in the secondary and early in the year on the pass rush.  Why are people making $%$% up about TD just because he wants an extension?   

He basically took almost 3 1/2 years off due to injury so he doesn't have the wear of someone who played the same amount of time.  Argue the length of the extension all you want, but don't make up poo about his play.  That's fugging stupid. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Udogg Enthusiast

Udogg

Posted
Posted
58 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

Norwell should get done before TD, and Greg still has 2 years left, he can wait til next season, no other team in the league gives in when people whine about wanting more money early...you signed the damn contract, now honor your end of it.

 

Do teams always honor the contract the end?   

You people.... it's like you are ...  ugghhhh...

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
imminent rogaine Experienced

imminent rogaine

Posted
Posted

If the panthers want to do TD and Olsen a solid, just restructure and turn more into guaranteed bonus - maybe a small extension. This helps the player out because they are protected in case of injury or getting old and sucking and it helps the team out with cap because we can spread it out. Either way, unless their extensions are necessary for freeing up money to sign Norwell, the TD and Olsen contracts are not where my focus would be. They are both under contract. Focus on the young, dependable guy whose contract is about to expire. He is 100% going to make more money on the market... sign him now. Olsen and TD would not make more if they left when their contracts expire. 

Edit: Also, consider that LT and Center are far from sure things at this point. Why create an extra hole on the line if you can avoid it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • cranky
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By cranky · Posted

      It all sounds great. The only unknowns are injuries and how they will need to be addressed. Horn has a history as does the newly added Jaelen Phillips and Cooker has yet to play an entire season as well. And then there are the Ikey's - totally unexpecteded injuries that put a major wrench in your plans. I do think its a great plan though.
    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.
    • MHS831
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By MHS831 · Posted

      In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
×
×
  • Create New...