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Lots of negatives for everyone not named Cam, but...

 

As a team we never gave up the fight, even with them likely being the better team in many aspects. We fought hard to the very end and never folded. Was glad to see that as it would’ve been easy as hell to throw in the towel at many different points in the game. Decent silver lining.

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Even though Funchess dropped that last throw that could've won the game for us, I still got to commend him for playing through with one arm.

His left shoulder was clearly hurt all game and I think it affected him a lot. Kudos to him for at least toughening through that and making plays earlier against Lattimore.

 

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I can only hope tonight was finally the eye opener for whoever is in charge to go “hmm maybe I should sign some actual WR’s”.

If tonight needed to happen for the above to happen then so damn well be it. Already wasted 6 years of Cam’s career what’s one more. Give the man WR’s and win the SB in years 8 and 9

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Just now, The Lobo said:

Earlier I thought we’d be screwed next year, we may be ok. Resign Norwell and most of this team is back next year. We need a safety wr and de and we could be fine.

We cant afford to resign Norwell.

We sunk enough money into the line at some point someone needs to step in and play, maybe that’s where Moton comes in.

Norwell’s money would be better off spent on WR’s

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4 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Even though Funchess dropped that last throw that could've won the game for us, I still got to commend him for playing through with one arm.

His left shoulder was clearly hurt all game and I think it affected him a lot. Kudos to him for at least toughening through that and making plays earlier against Lattimore.

 

Agreed. I've been as critical of Funchess as anyone but I'm very happy with his development this year.

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

I can only hope tonight was finally the eye opener for whoever is in charge to go “hmm maybe I should sign some actual WR’s”.

If tonight needed to happen for the above to happen then so damn well be it. Already wasted 6 years of Cam’s career what’s one more. Give the man WR’s and win the SB in years 8 and 9

WRs and Shula were 100% to blame for all red zone struggles and inability to score at end of the game. Cam followed up his dud with by far the best game any QB could’ve played under the circumstances. And Wilks is frankly just terrible, can’t wait until some idiot billionaire and GM hire him to get him outta here. Our secondary isnt good but the defensive coaching was terrible this year. We blitzed half the damn plays and still didn’t get pressure.

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

 

Norwell’s money would be better off spent on WR’s

god no norwell's the best player on offense not named cam. letting him go would get cam killed with matt kalil getting no help.

norwell should be a top tier priority, even above receivers. paul richardson and sammy watkins likely could be affordable options anyways.

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

We cant afford to resign Norwell.

We sunk enough money into the line at some point someone needs to step in and play, maybe that’s where Moton comes in.

Norwell’s money would be better off spent on WR’s

Tag him, restructure some others and get rid of M Kalil and go in for SB this year. Watkins and/or Crabtree, fire Shula, get safety help in draft

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3 minutes ago, jmwood2 said:

is it me or was gunter a lot better than Worley??

That was the case earlier in the year, too. Then Gunter started stinking it up. Maybe he just needs playing time to get comfortable in the system, but he’s not reliable yet. 

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