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R Kalil and making a Run

cheynehowell

By cheynehowell,
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Guys do you seriously think Hurney is going to sit on this contract for Kalil?? 10 mil for a hurt aging center when the window for us to compete is closing fast? That is valuable Cap space that could be used on Robinson and a competent Veteran Back and possibly a Safety. NFC is leaving us in the dust with moves getting better and we make a play on Torrey Smith for 5 million. As a PSL owner it just kills me to think a 10 million retirement tour is more important than prepping us to compete.

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Only about $7m of that $10m number is new money.  Part of it is dead money from prorated bonuses.  

The questions becomes how little you could offer him before he goes to another team or just retires.  If you offer just $2m he might decide its not worth playing another year.  If you offer him $4m he might take it but you are really only saving yourself $3m.  

Either way we should know soon, according to https://overthecap.com/player/ryan-kalil/1190/ his roster bonus is paid if he is on the team on 3rd of the new year which is later this week.

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you cant just cut players if you have no one to replace them.  why is this so hard to understand.  If carolina gets what they need in free agency and the draft to allow them to cut Kalil or Shepard, maybe they will, cutting them and risk not finding a suitable replacing is risky as fug.

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6 minutes ago, chknwing said:

you cant just cut players if you have no one to replace them.  why is this so hard to understand.  If carolina gets what they need in free agency and the draft to allow them to cut Kalil or Shepard, maybe they will, cutting them and risk not finding a suitable replacing is risky as fug.

Also - let's say they draft a guy like Billy Price as the replacement to Kalil. Sure would be nice to have Kalil around one more year with Price learning behind him. 

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You cut him IF we need the money. It is pretty basic. Negotiate with high priced FA. If they accept and we need money than he's gone. 

But in saying that I still feel like we won't go after high priced FA. 

When we lose Norwell, we will probably get a 3rd round pick. Maybe a 5th for Star. 

IF we get a high priced FA it's like trading a 3rd + giving them big money. 

We will probably pick up Cut Players or still do Trades but that's it IMO

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8 minutes ago, chknwing said:

you cant just cut players if you have no one to replace them.  why is this so hard to understand.  If carolina gets what they need in free agency and the draft to allow them to cut Kalil or Shepard, maybe they will, cutting them and risk not finding a suitable replacing is risky as fug.

We spent most of last year with Tyler Larsen at center.

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28 minutes ago, cheynehowell said:

Guys do you seriously think Hurney is going to sit on this contract for Kalil?? 10 mil for a hurt aging center when the window for us to compete is closing fast? That is valuable Cap space that could be used on Robinson and a competent Veteran Back and possibly a Safety. NFC is leaving us in the dust with moves getting better and we make a play on Torrey Smith for 5 million. As a PSL owner it just kills me to think a 10 million retirement tour is more important than prepping us to compete.

Emotions got him in trouble last time...he learned from that. :liar:

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4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

There is no one on the roster that even comes close to replacing Kalil at the moment. 

Larsen is a backup for a reason. 

Not to mention that not one person here has any idea whether he is healthy or not.  Nobody has seen his medical reports or talked to the doctors like the team has.  So if they decide to hang on to him, it is certainly based on the input from the people that actually know and understand his health.

Reports are that last year's problem was a byproduct of his 2016 shoulder injury and not being able to properly train and prepare for the season the way he needed to.  But when he came back at the end of the year last season, he sure played like he was fine, and he has stated that he won't have any limitations this offseason, so he should be completely ready for the coming season.

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