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Fuel for the "Crabtree trade" fire

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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Just now, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

It'd be better to restructure Kalil. His play has not amounted to 9.9M. Can't some of that be converted to a bonus so that it doesn't count towards the cap? Instead of restructuring Cam's contract, extend him and stretch out the money, if possible. 

We can, Correy Joel had a breakdown of how to do it. Save 3.9 this year, create dead money of 3.9 next year.

Essentially just borrowing against next years cap.

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Just now, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

It'd be better to restructure Kalil. His play has not amounted to 9.9M. Can't some of that be converted to a bonus so that it doesn't count towards the cap? Instead of restructuring Cam's contract, extend him and stretch out the money, if possible. 

Kalil is done after this year so it wouldn’t make any sense. We would just be adding dead money to the cap next year 

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1 minute ago, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

It'd be better to restructure Kalil. His play has not amounted to 9.9M. Can't some of that be converted to a bonus so that it doesn't count towards the cap?

NO!!! "Restructuring" takes non-guaranteed salary money and converts it to guaranteed bonus money. It's advantageous to the player because it creates more guaranteed money for them. It's advantageous to the team because it allows that bonus money to be spread out across the remaining years of the contract. The HUGE drawback is that now you've pushed guaranteed money into future years creating a lot more dead cap money if the player is released. You're essentially marrying yourself to that player and if he declines or just mails it in, well you're screwed.

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Not sure where we stand capwise but regardless, before knowing whether we could make this move we'd need to know whether we're gonna sign Luke Willson and for how much.

If you had to make a choice between those two options, which would you take?

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14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Please no. Restructures played a huge role in Hurney tanking our cap the last go round.

I agree with you that I don't want to see us start to rely on restructuring contracts.  However, it isn't always a bad thing.  It wasn't necessarily that we were restructuring and back-loading contracts the first go round; it was who we were restructuring and back-loading.  

IIRC, James Anderson was one of those guys.  I wouldn't have a problem with restructuring Cam and Luke - they are worth the future cap hit.  It's when you start doing that to guys like (for example, if we were to do it with him) Shaq Thompson it becomes a problem.

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

I agree with you that I don't want to see us start to rely on restructuring contracts.  However, it isn't always a bad thing.  It wasn't necessarily that we were restructuring and back-loading contracts the first go round; it was who we were restructuring and back-loading.  

IIRC, James Anderson was one of those guys.  I wouldn't have a problem with restructuring Cam and Luke - they are worth the future cap hit.  It's when you start doing that to guys like (for example, if we were to do it with him) Shaq Thompson it becomes a problem.

I think Short is one of those guys who you don't touch if only due to age. He'll turn 30 this season. And we'd be pushing guaranteed money down the road until he was 33 years old. That feels dangerous to me.

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